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PabloX 06-23-2015 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 8679856)

That thing is rather amazing.

There's one problem with it though. Once you start comparing the camera with the lenses mounted, it's not really much smaller or lighter than a DSLR.

nostatic 06-23-2015 12:45 PM

We also have a Canon 6D (my wife uses it to shoot her sculpture). I can tell you the A7ii is significantly smaller and lighter with relatively similar setups.

Canikon are slow to innovate and dSLR is increasingly irrelevant except for a few niche users. If I were buying, I'd think twice about pouring more money into any dSLR system. Ymmv.

PabloX 06-23-2015 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 8679897)
We also have a Canon 6D (my wife uses it to shoot her sculpture). I can tell you the A7ii is significantly smaller and lighter with relatively similar setups.

Canikon are slow to innovate and dSLR is increasingly irrelevant except for a few niche users. If I were buying, I'd think twice about pouring more money into any dSLR system. Ymmv.

I agree about DSLRs and innovation, but have you seen the Battis lenses? They're huge for what they are. Also, all the mirrorless lenses are a step backwards in one way. They all use linear focus motors and no focusing helicoids. Manual focus is really focus by wire and they can't have simultaneous auto/manual focus like Canon USM and Nikon SWM lenses.

All that said, I've sold off some of my Nikon stuff to fund the Fuji XT1 and lenses. I just got sick of lugging the weight and bulk.

nostatic 06-23-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PabloX (Post 8679909)
I agree about DSLRs and innovation, but have you seen the Battis lenses? They're huge for what they are. Also, all the mirrorless lenses are a step backwards in one way. They all use linear focus motors and no focusing helicoids. Manual focus is really focus by wire and they can't have simultaneous auto/manual focus like Canon USM and Nikon SWM lenses.

All that said, I've sold off some of my Nikon stuff to fund the Fuji XT1 and lenses. I just got sick of lugging the weight and bulk.

The FE 55/1.8 is one of the best pieces of glass I've owned/shot and it is plenty small/light. The Batis lenses are getting rave reviews but I'll likely get the 90mm macro instead of the 85 Batis.

I know guys who love the XT1 but it didn't really thrill me. I find I'm faster without the dedicated dials, and I really didn't like the raw files I got out. Plus APS-C vs FF, in-body shake reduction (in the A7ii and A7r2), much better high ISO and video performance - for me the Sony is a big win. If you prefer the analog dials and like the slightly smaller Fuji glass (which is very good), then the XT1 is compelling. Depends on what you like, how/what you shoot.

pcardude 06-23-2015 02:42 PM

I have a big Nikon system. D800 and all the 2.8 zooms as well as a bunch of 1.4 primes.

If I could go back in time I wouldn't have bought any of it. The new sonys smoke Nikon in every way. I won't be surprised if Nikon goes bankrupt in the next couple years, the vulchers are circling!

wdfifteen 06-23-2015 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PabloX (Post 8679845)
Are you shooting in RAW or JPEG? Also, how are you seeing the noise? Are you seeing it in prints or zoomed into 100% pixels in your editor?

I shoot raw fine and the noise is visible at 100%.

What I run into is shooting a car or truck with pleasing exposure on the exterior and then trying to crank up the shadow exposure to get some definition in the black of the wheel well. What I got with my D-300 was a bunch of colored pixels mixed in with the black. The D-610 images withstand this extreme manipulation much better. You can actually see a little detail instead of a weird blackish mess.

I was hoping I could find a good example for you, but I'm on the road and don't have a good one on my laptop. All I have is some shots of a model truck. Here are screen shots.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1435113113.jpg

Before turning up the shadow exposure


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1435113147.jpg

After turning up the shadow exposure. Notice there are no color pixels in the wheel well. With my old D-300 there would be speckles of red and blue.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1435113437.jpg


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