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Joe Bob 06-27-2015 11:01 AM

SCOTUS ruling on marriage; extend to 50 state CCW?
 
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Far fetched or what?

BE911SC 06-27-2015 11:11 AM

Parf

speeder 06-27-2015 11:43 AM

Ya think?

patz 06-27-2015 12:47 PM

P A R F? Not a stretch, knowing you maniacs. It will be there soon.

As to extending constitutional rights to denial of right in States. I'm all for it. Why should someone in AZ have the right to carry concealed while if it is denied in CA by some County douchebag Sherriff?

wdfifteen 06-27-2015 01:06 PM

Far fetched. There's no constitutional right to walk around with a gun hidden on your person.

Yes. PARF

Porsche-O-Phile 06-27-2015 01:52 PM

What part of "keep and BEAR arms" do you have trouble understanding?

widebody911 06-27-2015 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 8686204)
What part of "keep and BEAR arms" do you have trouble understanding?

What part of "well REGULATED militia do you have trouble understanding?"

Porsche-O-Phile 06-27-2015 02:30 PM

None. And that's already settled under the Heller v. DC decision. "Well regulated militia" extends to individuals. Settled already.

aigel 06-27-2015 03:13 PM

Haha - gay marriage and guns in one OP. That takes doing!

legion 06-27-2015 03:18 PM

I always found it sadly funny that anything else in the Constitution (or rights invented by the court) are considered "infringed" when the effect of a law merely has a "chilling effect", but the single amendment that says "shall not be infringed" is allowed to be chilled out of existence as long as it is theoretically possible to exercise.

Dantilla 06-27-2015 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 8686212)
What part of "well REGULATED militia do you have trouble understanding?"

At the time this country was founded, the term "well regulated" would mean "well equipped" today.

What we call a well regulated army today was called the "Standing Army".

The standing army's soldiers were issued their regulations, meaning a musket, gunpowder and lead balls and other soldier stuff- Not a booklet of rules.

The founding fathers knew that free men should be well equipped to defend themselves- That they (we) should be "well regulated".

Rick Lee 06-27-2015 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 8686150)
Far fetched. There's no constitutional right to walk around with a gun hidden on your person.

Yes. PARF

Actually there is, but recognizing or defining marriage is NOT a power granted to the feds in the Const, which means it belongs to the states or to the people. Crazy 10th Amendment stuff.

stomachmonkey 06-27-2015 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 8686279)
At the time this country was founded, the term "well regulated" would mean "well equipped" today.

What we call a well regulated army today was called the "Standing Army".

The standing army's soldiers were issued their regulations, meaning a musket, gunpowder and lead balls and other soldier stuff- Not a booklet of rules.

The founding fathers knew that free men should be well equipped to defend themselves- That they (we) should be "well regulated".

More accurately it meant "properly attended to or well maintained".

A clean house would also have been well regulated.

tabs 06-28-2015 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 8686150)
Far fetched. There's no constitutional right to walk around with a gun hidden on your person.

Yes. PARF

The blowback on this recent decision could very well be that there will be CCW's for everybody...

Can you say Gay and Guns in the same sentence...

tabs 06-28-2015 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 8686279)
At the time this country was founded, the term "well regulated" would mean "well equipped" today.

What we call a well regulated army today was called the "Standing Army".

The standing army's soldiers were issued their regulations, meaning a musket, gunpowder and lead balls and other soldier stuff- Not a booklet of rules.

The founding fathers knew that free men should be well equipped to defend themselves- That they (we) should be "well regulated".

There wasn't much of a "Standing Army" back in 1789. Most defence was by citizens in local ad hoc militia groups that provided for a common defence. In that those citizens mostly had to provide their own arms.

Dantilla 06-28-2015 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 8686698)
There wasn't much of a "Standing Army" back in 1789. Most defence was by citizens in local ad hoc militia groups that provided for a common defence. In that those citizens mostly had to provide their own arms.

True. The British had a standing army, the colonists, not so much.

group911@aol.co 06-28-2015 08:01 AM

And why there is a second amendment at all;
The Second Amendment was Ratified to Preserve Slavery

wildthing 06-28-2015 08:09 AM

I really hope so. I am in a metropolitan area in California, one of the hardest places to get one.

Why is defending a wife and 3 daughters not "good cause"? Or better yet, why do I have to justify it, if it is an unalienable right?

sammyg2 06-28-2015 09:28 AM

The constitution gave us separation of powers. Now we have collusion of powers.

The destruction is nearly complete. Congrats.

Porsche-O-Phile 06-28-2015 11:26 AM

The left wants everyone dependent on the government (them) for everything. When it comes to your own safety and security its deemed "vigilantism" if you dare to suggest you'd rather take responsibility for it yourself rather than be dependent on their "we'll get there when we get around to it - if we feel like it - but right now we're on break" union report-writers.

Remember, when seconds count the police are only minutes away. At least they'll (usually) show up later on to take some pictures and write a nice report about it. That's what they did for my friend (Scott C. Down, murdered in anti-gun Massachusetts back in the early 1990s by some bad guys robbing the place he was working). The police are under no obligation to protect you - yet the left wants you to put complete trust and your very life (and the lives of your family members) in their hands no matter what.

Yep. That makes sense.


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