Your tolerance for 'noise'?
 

I'm on "vacation" with my wife's family. There are a couple people here who seem to need to constantly create noise. They either need to have the music cranked to 11, or they're singing, clapping, snapping fingers, yelling "whohoo!" yada yada yada. All fooking day along. I don't know if this is normal or not, but it just bugs the hell out of me. I guess I'm more of a quiet person, as I rarely have the music going, I don't sing out loud or any of that madness. I could (almost) understand if these were kids, but they're in their 50's and 60's!

Am I just a curmudgeon?

yes.

but really it is the type of noise..or in your case, probably the source.

can you get away? this is one of those difficult times where you need to remember it is their vacation as well.

Some cultures like to make as much noise as possible. America is one of them. Italy, countries in the Middle East, India, etc, are others. Japan would be the opposite, along with many, many cultures who have a deep respect for others. Americans are not know for being sensitive or respectful to others.

I personally hate noise of any kind.

Except 2 stroke motorcycles. And Porsches.

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I'm not saying anything, I'm just trying to stay as far as I can from them, which is annoying the wife because she thinks I'm anti-social (which I am). The constant noise is giving me a headache. They were going at until well after midnight, and it started up again @ 0800 this morning.

Yeah, I pretty much don't like people, too :)

Get some liquid earplugs. The good ones taste just like scotch.


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After spending 5 days in a really nice Michigan State park that overlooked the St Clair river where the large ships and maritime travelers all moved along the river, you can't believe the noise from the 2 lane highway that separated us from the river. It seemed that every blockhead with loud pipes on his Harley or his 4x4 pickup took great joy in saying "look at me" by revving or accelerating briskly past the campground.

I'm a very quiet person who doesn't verbalize a whole lot during the day, but I do love my Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple cranked up in the car when i'm moving, but I turn it way down at stop lights or if someone else is in the car.....out of common courtesy for others. I am evidently a rare breed for such actions, because I sure don't see many others who give a damn about anybody else but themselves !

Don't even get me started about the campers next to us who had their beagle tied to a short lead all week, that thier giggling young kids never failed to tease, and want to play with, and make him bark......AARRGGHHHH.

I have one inviolate rule in my life: Staying with other people unless they are in the same hotel.

Vacation with extended family? Bet me.

It's been my experience that the noisiest people are the ones who have low self esteem because either they don't have a job or they are drunks or a combination of the two.

They like to make noise because it's stimulating and it also draws attention - which helps feed their egos.

There are exceptions to what I stated above but those are some observations I have made on the subject.

I dislike noise myself and prefer to focus my energy into more productive activities.

YMMV....

too general. for everyone you describe, i can find a silent loner with the same self esteem issues.

i think they are just letting down their hair, having fun with vacation. i go with the obvious answer first before diving deep into the mind..

there is no one louder than my MIL. that lady has a good time, and perfect self esteem. i just need to calibrate my own issues to adjust. sometimes, i know it's "me" with the problem.

Widebody just needs to find his own happy place. :)

I was an only child raised in a quiet home. So no, I'm not a fan of loud people. I used to love loud music and cars but that is pretty much drying up to...like me I guess.

I had a loud family next to us in a very nice luxury resort. They would not shut up. So the GF and I just did the nasty on the dresser with her screaming against the adjoining wall. They moved. Problem solved.

that was you?!!

damn, sorry about my loud ass family..

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One of the things I have never understood is the people that just HAVE to hum or whistle or sing a line from a song. I have yet to see one of those people that whistle, hum or sing in tune. It is always random noise.

No. People like that drive me nuts.
A little partying and gayety is great, but people who are constantly making noise are annoying.

I know a good place to hide the bodies, hypothetically ...

If you saw or heard like-minded people they wouldn't be like-minded people!

As a general rule, I am the quiet one.

From time to time however, I am the one you would find annoying, as I tend to sing, whistle or play guitar with my singing. I like swapping good jokes and a good laugh is a pleasure.

There should be a time and place for everything.
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This spring we went on vacation with friends. I bought a used guitar at a consignment shop, played it for 5 days then sold it back. Gotta have tunes!

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Les

[QUOTE=ckelly78z;8690386]After spending 5 days in a really nice Michigan State park that overlooked the St Clair river where the large ships and maritime travelers all moved along the river, you can't believe the noise from the 2 lane highway that separated us from the river. It seemed that every blockhead with loud pipes on his Harley or his 4x4 pickup took great joy in saying "look at me" by revving or accelerating briskly past the campground.

That road is the major tourist/cruise road along the river. Did you happen to go north to Port Huron while in Michigan?

I feel your pain. The older I get the less I like noise AND people. I love my 3 dogs and they are quiet usually. I can't imagine going on vacation with an extended family anymore.

You are one of the best people here but...:D

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I found some stashed; this will have to do for now.

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^^^^^^ It's not enough.

Let’s see, feed myself into a wood chipper or go on vacation with extended family. Hmmm. Which would I choose?

Ian

This was me 15 years ago, I also totally hated dogs because they barked.

Then I moved out to the "quiet" country and had kids in my early 40's.
Now I don't even notice noise anymore, babies crying make me smile and I get a kick out watching old farts blow a gasket when they do.
I love my noisy teenage kids, my tractor, ATV, my loud ass cars, my rooster cock-a-doodling in the morning, coyotes, crickets and spring peepers at night and most of all I just love my barky dog.

But then again I have no city noise anymore, I do hate city and droning traffic noise.

SmileWavy

Noisy eaters. Makes me nuts. :mad:


Other than that, not really bothered by much.




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It's an actual thing, er, things:


Four Types of Sound Sensitivity

1. HYPERACUSIS: These individuals have a collapsed tolerance to normal environmental sound. The term commonly used to describe this condition is 'hyperacusis'. Hyperacusis can come on gradually or occur suddenly where the patient finds themself in a state of crisis. Patients who have a collapsed tolerance to sound need to have their Loudness Discomfort Levels (LDL's) established by a hearing healthcare professional. Normal LDL's are in the 85-90+ decibel range. Patients with hyperacusis would have LDL's well below that level. The common treatment for hyperacusis is listening to broadband pink noise though sound generators (special hearing aids) which must be ordered through a specially trained doctor or audiologist who administers Hyperacusis (Tinnitus) Retraining Therapy. The therapy often costs $3000-$4000 (depending on the clinician) and typically is not covered by insurance.

There are two basic ways to deliver broadband pink noise to your ears. The best way starts with a clinician who is trained to diagnose the seriousness of your condition, explain to you the dynamics of hyperacusis, test your ears in gentle ways to determine your loudness discomfort levels (LDL), fit you with special hearing aids called noise (sound) generators that deliver broadband pink noise to your ears, monitor your progress and provide directive counseling until you recover. Treatment usually lasts 6 months. Clinicians who administer this kind of treatment were trained by Dr. Pawel Jastreboff (Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia). They are experts in treating hyperacusis and tinnitus patients. Their protocol is called Tinnitus Retraining Therapy (also know as TRT) and it has significantly helped tinnitus and hyperacusis patients recover. To learn more about TRT you might consider reading Dr. Jastreboff's book "Tinnitus Retraining Therapy." A list of TRT clinicians can be seen by visiting this website: referral.html

The second way one can deliver broadband pink noise to their ears would be to purchase the broadband pink noise CD from the network. Instead of listening to broadband pink noise through special noise generators (TRT), a similar sound can be delivered to the ear by listening to a pink noise CD. With this method pink noise is delivered to the ears through a compact CD player (i.e. walkman). If you use a compact CD player it is very important that you use open air headphones. More detail is explained in the guideline that comes with this networks pink noise CD. Pink noise can also be downloaded from the pink noise CD to an ipod. The only caution here would be that the pink noise be converted to a WAV or AIFF format.

2. RECRUITMENT: There are many more individuals who have recruitment. Recruitment is the a rapid growth of perceived loudness for sounds in the pitch region of a person who has hearing loss. This phenomenon occurs because at some decibel level, the normal hair cells adjacent to the damaged hair cells (corresponding to the frequency of a hearing loss) are "recruited." At the decibel level at which these normal hair cells "kick in," perceived loudness shoots up rapidly, causing discomfort. In other words, at one point the person cannot hear the sound because they have hearing loss (in that frequency), then when the sound reaches a certain loudness and/or frequency the person is blown away. Once they finally hear the sound, it is perceived as far too loud. Recruitment is a common phenomenon in cultures where the majority of their lives have been saturated with too much noise – like our Western culture. Common treatment is the same as it is for hyperacusis unless the persons hearing loss is so pronounced that listening to broadband pink noise would be of no benefit to them.

3. HYPERSENSITIVE HEARING (OF SPECIFIC FREQUENCIES): Then there are individuals who are sound sensitive at birth but it is only specific to certain frequencies heard at loud levels (typically above 70 decibels). It may seem like we are splitting hairs here but remember – the key words with hypersensitive hearing are – sound sensitive to specific frequencies heard at loud levels. These frequencies are typically labeled 'problem' frequencies. Autistic children are good examples of this. They can tolerate some sound at normal or even loud volumes but some frequencies are difficult to tolerable. Commonly autistic children, children who are marginally autistic, or non-autistic individuals who have hyperacute hearing are treated with auditory integration therapy (AIT). AIT takes regular music and filters out the problem frequencies through a special machine called an audiokinetron. Somehow this therapy seems to 'retune' their ears and normalizes their hearing tolerances. The music is listened to at decibel levels which can peak up to 90 decibels. This creates a problem for the hyperacusis patient. The therapy is too loud and only worsens the condition of the hyperacusis patient whose Loudness Discomfort Levels have been compromised. To learn more about the sensory problems associated with autism visit this link: The sensory world of autism - | autism | Asperger syndrome |

4. PHONOPHOBIA/MISOPHONIA:

Phonophobia (fear of sound) is an adverse emotional response to sound and often develops with an individual who has a significant collapsed tolerance to sound. They not only fear the sound of the environment they are experiencing in real time (right now) they worry about the sound that future events of the day or in the near future will produce. It can significantly interfer with a patients recovery as they seek or complete sound therapy. Phonophobia can take over ones life and make one feel they need to isolate themselves to survive. This is a recipe for disaster. It is critical that we keep our ears active to rebuild our tolerances to sound. That is why broadband pink noise is so crucial to bringing us back to the mainstream of life.

Misophonia (dislike of sound) is also an adverse response to sound no matter what volume the sound is. Typically misophonia characterizes an individual who reacts strongly to soft sounds and sometimes is further triggered by seeing the source of the offending sound. Common examples would include but are not limited to: the sound of people eating, smacking their lips, sniffing, the sound of certain consonants like p, s, or t, and repetitive sounds. These individuals do not have a collapsed tolerance to sound which would be evident in a Loudness Discomfort Level (LDL) test.

http://www.hyperacusis.net/hyperacusis/4+types+of+sound+sensitivity/default.asp

If he ingests those I'll bet he starts making a bunch of noise too!

I like techno music, so I'm not really one to cast stones about others 'noise'.

YES!!!!!!

Hearing somebody eating popcorn or chips drives me farkin nuts!! My son has a bad habit(like many others) of this.

"For the love of all that is holy, close your mouth after you put the chip in!!!"

[QUOTE=Oh Haha;8690561] Yes, we checked out the waterfront and drove under the hi-level bridge and lounged on the beach next to the Port Huron Lighthouse.....nice place !

Loud music, talking, etc. used to not bother me, but as I've gotten older, I like my silence. Even having the tv on bothers me.

[QUOTE=ckelly78z;8690873] That's my hometown. I grew up outside of the city but spent lots of time at the beaches and watched the newer bridge being built back in the mid-90s.

I have several pics of the 911 over the years with the bridges in the background.

Im with you on this. Loud talky people, noisy environments, especially TVs and screeching ads. Fkn Harleys.

Went to Spain, the women there blew my mind. The hottest women in the world. By the end of a week in Barcelona, I could have cheerfully strangled every one of them. They never shut up and they are so loud.

I play in a rock band.

You've just reminded me of a story from my campground camping days. Our "regular" spot was rented and we ended up in a different area. Not long after we arrived, this "group" arrived and went to the campsite next to us.

They had no camping equipment. In fact, at one point I found an electric drip coffee maker in the men's toilet! One of the guys was obviously "mentally handicapped". Not real bad, but definitely was a problem. Loud. yelling all the time. outbursts. Kept saying "Larry" all the time. Screaming. All sorts of annoying stuff when you are supposed to be in a quiet state campground.

At some point. The screaming gets worse. There is an argument. The Gist is the crazy guy is screaming that "Larry" stole his "pot" - marijuana...Meanwhile Larry is trying to shush him, etc. Hilarious, if we weren't staying next door...

I can't remember what exactly was the final straw, but my (now) ex-wife and her daughter were walking past and the wacko yells something weird at them. I had to go to the rangers and they quickly "moved on".

"LARRY! LARRY! LARRY! YOU STOLE MY POT, LARRY!"

You cut me deep, Paul. Deep.SmileWavy

I would have been belting out "Sister Golden Hair" :D

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Les

I have sound sensitivity of one of these types. I can't go to music concerts or listen to any loud music. It is literally painful to me. Movie theaters play the sound too loud for me most of the time, so I take ear plugs if I go at all.
But I thought the OP was talking about noise that is annoying as opposed to painful.

Luckily, I didn't see myself in any of the four types of sound sensetivity listed above. I do have to run a fan year round while I sleep to prevent me from hearing every little noise like the passing traffic, house sounds, cats playing in another room, or any other minor sound during the night (I believe that I am more of a light sleeper than having hearing problems). For this reason also, I need to have the bedroom dark when I sleep, and really had a tough time years ago when I worked 3rd shift for awhile.

I am not very tolerant of useless, needless noise made by barking dogs, or loud people who have no filters. Being a quiet person, I enjoy my vacation days doing things on my farm or reading a book by our campfire. One more thing "LOUD PIPES DON'T SAVE LIVES" they're just annoying !