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J P Stein 07-20-2015 07:21 AM
I have bought & sold......a number of cars on CL & no where else for years. Had a few whackos involved, but no real problems.....I think it much depends on location.

onewhippedpuppy 07-20-2015 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 8718061)
The bottom line is that a decent 993 that sits unsold for more than a few days in today's market is priced incorrectly. I've said it before but the market price of a car, (or anything else), is what you can sell it for in a reasonably short period of time, marketed properly.

The value is not what some hypothetical buyer in a cave or on a mountaintop in the Himilayas might pay for it if he only had Internet service and could find out you are selling.

If it's an air-cooled 911 listed here, it's marketed properly. Oh haha just sold his 911SC in one day to a guy in Germany from this site for a strong price in relation to condition of the car. Everyone on earth is looking here. :cool:
Agreed. The air-cooled market is still hot, if a car is marketed well but not selling, there's only one reason why. I sold a 1989 930 cab for a six figure price within two weeks on Pelican, I guarantee that the market for a car like that is much more limited than a sub-$50k 993.

JavaBrewer 07-20-2015 09:42 AM
Rick, your ad copy looks better. IMO, and already suggested, your photos are not selling the car either. I would ditch all pictures on your driveway and in the garage. Drive the car to a great outdoor setting and take all the pictures there. Avoid redundant shots. Take a look at some of Matt's examples for reference.

Rick Lee 07-21-2015 06:03 PM
It has 92 watchers on eBay now and a bid at $35k, but I'll keep it before I sell it for that.

enzo1 07-21-2015 06:24 PM
Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe 2 Door | eBay

porsche4life 07-21-2015 06:33 PM
Give it a few more days...

A930Rocket 07-21-2015 06:37 PM
Do you have the original parts to go with it? If yes, you might want to add that to your listing.

aigel 07-21-2015 06:39 PM
Selling for $35k would not be smart. I still think new pics would help. Rotate the speedo back. You don't want it to look like you've been going 150 across the desert every weekend. (even though the car probably would like that more than sitting!).

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Rick Lee 07-21-2015 06:52 PM
I need to research how and when to end an auction that already has bids without incurring additional fees. I'd like to message the bidder to tell him, but that probably opens me up to some kind of sanctions.

speeder 07-21-2015 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 8720692)
I need to research how and when to end an auction that already has bids without incurring additional fees. I'd like to message the bidder to tell him, but that probably opens me up to some kind of sanctions.
Just put a reserve on the auction, FFS! What is so complicated about this? Jesus...:rolleyes:

You will not know how much someone will bid for it until the auction is over. If no one hits your reserve, it will not be sold, (on eBay), but you will get messages and offers. If you pull the auction, people will assume that the car is sold and not contact you.

It's not rocket science. If you're so broke or cheap that you can't bring yourself to spend $18 or whatever it is to have a reserve, you are shooting yourself in the foot.

speeder 07-21-2015 07:17 PM
The car looks pretty but pictures are not great. The value will suffers some for the mods like different color seats, rims, etc., (unless you still have the stock parts).

herr_oberst 07-21-2015 07:42 PM
Spend a hundred bucks and get some center caps for those wheels and find a used spare tire.

Lots of mods on this car that may or may not be to the taste of potential buyers, so unfortunately you'll have to sit on it until the right buyer comes along. Fortunately, it is a very desirable model, so you are getting lots of lookers.

It'll sell, give it time.

onewhippedpuppy 07-21-2015 07:58 PM
Rick, honestly, you're concerned about paying $18 worth of fees on a car that you hope to sell for $50k? On an average month I spend around $500/mo to advertise cars for sale, you gotta pay to play.

Rick Lee 07-21-2015 08:00 PM
I have the center caps and think it looks better without them. I don't mind paying the reserve auction fee, just figured I'd get some free advertising and make a deal outside of eBay. Current bidder has not contacted me at all.

herr_oberst 07-21-2015 08:14 PM
Why would the bidder try and contact you? The auction isn't over. I think you're on the hook now for fees on at least 35k if you want to end this early.

Maybe there's a loophole, but I couldn't find it.

speeder 07-21-2015 08:14 PM
Well, you're doing it all wrong. People who know the game are trying to help you and you seem to be immune to good advice. Without a reserve, you may not be getting the right bidders.

speeder 07-21-2015 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 8720786)
Why would the bidder try and contact you? The auction isn't over. I think you're on the hook now for fees on at least 35k if you want to end this early.

Maybe there's a loophole, but I couldn't find it.
Exactly. Without a reserve, you now have an "item will sell" bid on it. Brilliant.

Rick Lee 07-21-2015 08:22 PM
I can end the auction or revise the listing at anytime up to 24 hrs. before the end. And the final fee for selling a car for a "low-volume seller" is $125.

Speeder, you're really getting obnoxious and unhelpful. Take a few days off and then come back and keep reassuring everyone how happy you really are.

herr_oberst 07-21-2015 08:36 PM
You can revise the listing, but since you have a bid, it's too late to add a reserve.
Like Denis said, there are people like Matt that are trying to help you with this.
You have a nice, desirable car, but you need to market it properly in order to make top dollar.
Lots of little things really start to add up, good and bad.

speeder 07-21-2015 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 8720798)
I can end the auction or revise the listing at anytime up to 24 hrs. before the end. And the final fee for selling a car for a "low-volume seller" is $125.

Speeder, you're really getting obnoxious and unhelpful. Take a few days off and then come back and keep reassuring everyone how happy you really are.
When have I ever had to "reassure everyone how happy (I really am)?? :confused:

You are confusing my frustration with...how can I say this nicely...the foolishness you are displaying in trying to sell your car. You started a thread basically seeking advice on marketing it and when given good advice, you schit the bed. If you end the auction early, (with the always stupid "advertised locally/may end early" text in listing), people will assume the car is sold.

Ive tried to help you here, as have others. It's a waste of time. Good luck, you will need it. :cool:


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