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scottmandue 08-15-2015 11:03 AM

When did car keys get to be $150-$250
 
Picked up a 2013 Mazda, great car but the guy hands me the key...
Me: "Uh, is that the only key?"
Him: "Uh, yeah..."

And yeah... I knew I was screwed (new key would be $$$) but what are you going to do, you buy a used car and you know there will be issues, and if only one key is the worst than I'm okay with that.

So the key "was" one of the flip out key/remote fob combos... remote works but "flip out key" had been broken off so they cut a simple key and we are using the broken remote (that works but looks wonky).

Anyone have a connection with a Mazda dealer that can get me a deal? (everything I read says only a dealer can cut/program a new key fob)

TIA

Scott R 08-15-2015 11:16 AM

That's not bad, Panamera key was $550 + $150 for programming for when my new puppy ate it recently.

porsche4life 08-15-2015 11:22 AM

Check on eBay. Usually you can buy one cheaper and then just take it and have it cut and programmed

schwarz633 08-15-2015 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 8754442)
Check on eBay. Usually you can buy one cheaper and then just take it and have it cut and programmed

I got 2 switchblade key/fobs with my 2001 Audi TT, but they were pretty beat up. I bought a couple on eBay cheap from China, they had a blank key and no electronics. I planned on getting the sidewinder keys cut and transferring the electronics and the security glass bead from the old cases to the new cases. I called around to the local locksmiths and was told that they only cut key blanks that they sell. I ended up transferring the old keys to the new cases, it worked out.

A few years back I bought a 2004 Ford Escape with one key and was able to get a security key cut and programmed by a locksmith for about $75.

scottmandue 08-15-2015 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 8754442)
Check on eBay. Usually you can buy one cheaper and then just take it and have it cut and programmed

Searching the internet I am being told only a Mazda dealer can program the remote, so I wonder if they will balk if I show up with eBay Chinese knockoffs? (found a deal on 2 for $60... as opposed to $120 for one OEM unit).

I will call the Mazda dealers and see if they cut/program blanks I bring them.

Another option is to get a generic programmable remote and have the keys cut separately.

mikester 08-15-2015 04:01 PM

I woulda made a stink about it, did they wait for you to sign the papers and all that too? Rusnak volvo did that to me a few years ago and I told them hat without the proper keys I didn't want the car, it should have been disclosed up front that they didn't have even the fobs so no remote door locks and only a single key. I know it's used but come on! Eventually Volvo and the dealer made me a deal of $150 for 2 fobs and another key but VOLVO is really the savior there as they gave me a $250 certificate to use and the dealer basically waived their programming fee.

Tobra 08-15-2015 04:33 PM

I think with the Mazdas you can program a key yourself if you have two that work, same for the fobs.

Keys for my car have a chip in them, was only about $50 for a blank, unprogrammed key. Got the key cut, then programmed a third key using the two I have, so if I lose one, I can still do it. They wanted a couple hundred to do the programming at the stealership.

Baz 08-15-2015 04:46 PM

The good news is you don't have a cracked windshield!

:)

sc_rufctr 08-15-2015 05:14 PM

.... Sound like a lot of hassle and the Chinese knock offs are rubbish.
I bought one off Ebay for my daughters BMW. After programing it worked for about 6 weeks and then the battery failed.

If it was me I would just go into the Dealership and pay the money for a new OEM key.

Sucks but you knew that when you bought the car.

masraum 08-15-2015 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 8754410)

Anyone have a connection with a Mazda dealer that can get me a deal? (everything I read says only a dealer can cut/program a new key fob)

TIA

https://onlinemazdaparts.com/
I've used this place a few times, and it's pretty heavily used my the miata community. I had a 2004 Miata. I was able to get 2 keys, pre-cut for the price of a single key from the local dealer. I still had to pay the local dealer about $100 or maybe $115 to program them. I only had a single key, to program a second key requires calling the VIN or maybe the number from the security box into Mazda NA to get a code. That's why I ordered 2 keys. To program a new key if you already have 2 can be done without the dealer.

pete3799 08-15-2015 06:03 PM

Just show them your man card and.............oh yeah.........nevermind

A930Rocket 08-15-2015 07:58 PM

I bought 2-3 off amazon for our draughts Nissan. The dealer cut them and programmed them for about $75 all in.

Steve Carlton 08-15-2015 09:33 PM

The car is supposed to come with two remote/keys, right? Maybe a valet key, too? What key did you use when you test-drove the car- the broken half-ass key? This wasn't a Mazda dealer you purchased it from, right?

If you're lucky, you can find the previous owner(s) info somewhere and contact them to see if they have an original key. A lot of personal information gets left in used cars that shouldn't be there. What's the VIN- maybe the Carfax has some useful info on it.

911_Dude 08-16-2015 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pete3799 (Post 8754794)
Just show them your man card and.............oh yeah.........nevermind

Good one

onewhippedpuppy 08-16-2015 04:46 AM

Call some mobile locksmith services. In many cases they stock keys and will come to you for the programming. I did this last year with a Jeep that had the remote built into the head. It was $100 including the key and programming.

WPOZZZ 08-16-2015 05:10 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7V3FH_uB6U

dennis in se pa 08-16-2015 08:56 AM

What pisses me off about this is that the insurance company benefits, but you really don't. These fancy keys make it harder to steal your car, but over your lifetime you will probably spend $1000 for lost keys. It's like you paying an additional fee with little benefit. I have a Honda Odyssey. Who the heck would steal that?

WPOZZZ 08-16-2015 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dennis in se pa (Post 8755304)
What pisses me off about this is that the insurance company benefits, but you really don't. These fancy keys make it harder to steal your car, but over your lifetime you will probably spend $1000 for lost keys. It's like you paying an additional fee with little benefit. I have a Honda Odyssey. Who the heck would steal that?

Thieves steal minivans because they can pile lots of things inside.

masraum 08-16-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 8755640)
Thieves steal minivans because they can pile lots of things inside.

Thieves steal minivans because there are lots of them so lots get into accidents and need replacement parts. The market for cheap replacement parts is huge and drives the market for theft. The most stolen vehicles are the most common and pedestrian not the rare and exotic

tonytiger 08-16-2015 03:56 PM

Try loosing one of those newfangled keys with a rent a car.

1990C4S 08-16-2015 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 8755791)
Why have they started wiring them together too? With National and Enterprise I always seem to get both keys firmly attached to one another on a crimped wire. If I lose one, I'm losing both! Pointless and pocket stuffing.

I cut the joining cable in half the minute I get them. I actually carry side-cutters when I'm getting a rental car, just for that reason. That is the dumbest thing ever. What the eff are they thinking?

nota 08-16-2015 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 8755811)
I cut the joining cable in half the minute I get them. I actually carry side-cutters when I'm getting a rental car, just for that reason. That is the dumbest thing ever. What the eff are they thinking?

home dumpo has replacements wire/cable at their key aisle
so you can give them back tied

intakexhaust 08-17-2015 10:54 AM

Not much has changed-

I recall these pricey keys from the 1970's for the Bavaria:
http://www.keys4classics.com/images_cut/1069-cut.jpg

GH85Carrera 08-17-2015 11:03 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1439838030.jpg

I have carried the same keys for over 20 years, some of those keys for 25 years. Never replaced a battery yet. I can't figure out where the batteries go in.

Rot 911 08-17-2015 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 8755048)
Call some mobile locksmith services. In many cases they stock keys and will come to you for the programming. I did this last year with a Jeep that had the remote built into the head. It was $100 including the key and programming.

This. It is amazing what they have in stock and can do!

gordner 08-17-2015 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by intakexhaust (Post 8756665)
Not much has changed-

I recall these pricey keys from the 1970's for the Bavaria:
http://www.keys4classics.com/images_cut/1069-cut.jpg

I remember this key....I wanted an extra for my 76 bavaria, and was told by BMW that without a key code it would be $850 to make a new one...I thought that was a bmw tax, so I talked to a specialist locksmith who offered to do it for $900 if i provided the blank....
That ended up being my first push button start car lol

Tobra 08-17-2015 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 8755811)
I cut the joining cable in half the minute I get them. I actually carry side-cutters when I'm getting a rental car, just for that reason. That is the dumbest thing ever. What the eff are they thinking?

Excellent idea

Ostensibly, you pay less for your insurance. My 2004 turbo Miata is about half as expensive to insure as a 1998 Integra GSR was. Turbo two seat convertible is less than a sedan, with the hot B series motor and matching transmission the kids liked to have in their civics.


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