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BE911SC 08-22-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AFC-911 (Post 8762829)
Every aspect of life is easier for a white male.

I suppose it is an advantage not to be shot immediately on sight by the cops.

When I was applying for an airline pilot job in the mid-'90s a squadron buddy, a black guy, was applying too. Great guy, hard worker in the squadron. He knew he'd have an advantage because he was black but he wasn't an a-hole about it. He and I both interviewed at a big airline based in Denver. Because there are 100 well-qualified white guys for every airline job and maybe a dozen "other" people the process is often tilted to favor the "other" applicants. Quotas, etc. Call it what you want. I did well in my interview but my college grades held me back. My stellar military flying record was not mentioned by the interviewers, a captain and an HR woman. My squadron buddy, the black guy, had similar grades and flight record but could not pass the airline's simulator test. He just kept lousing it up. The airline rejected me in the standard letter but brought my black pilot buddy for three simulator tests in total and he finally passed the third time and has been at that airline ever since. He is a terrific guy and in my mind deserves the job as much as anyone but his skin color gave him an advantage that I did not have. I had to earn my job on merit while he knew full well that he had an advantage because of his race/ethnicity. You could argue that because I was white that I had one strike against me.

It worked out in the end and we are both still buddies and love our respective companies.

look 171 08-22-2015 12:52 PM

Well, just look at colleges. Some of these inner city kids get all the perks. How about the regular folks? I think many of the Asian kids get the shaft. Try getting them in UCLA even with stellar grads and a bang up SAT scores. USC would reserve a space for that black or latino kid and let them go for free. My neighbors are both Phds from Harvard and are both black. He's Prof. at SC business school and tell me these things and wife works for Disney. When my kdis apply to college, I am changing their names to Gonzales.

ficke 08-22-2015 04:41 PM

It helps for votes to be president. I doubt if Obama was white he would of been president of the USA.

island911 08-22-2015 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AFC-911 (Post 8762829)
You mean you haven't noticed that white men are taken more seriously in business, romance, etc. etc?

Every aspect of life is easier for a white male.

:rolleyes:

ONE aspect of life is easier for a white male - the cultural upbringing that if we screw-up, don't make the grade, don't get the promotion . . . that we don't go on blaming racism.

My white friend and I were harassed by police when younger, but we weren't going to be hiding behind some fabricated nonsense that it was because of our pigment levels. We had the advantage of learning early on that people can be ass holes.

Of course black American will not blame the ass holes for being what they are. Rather they blame Racism.... They strengthen the pervasive victim narrative with every encounter with every ass hole.


MEANWHILE we have White Frauds like Elisabeth Warren, Rachel Dolezal, Shawn King CLAIMING minority status because minority status brings easy advancement.

Now what?

Don Ro 08-22-2015 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ficke (Post 8763662)
It helps for votes to be president. I doubt if Obama was white he would of been president of the USA.

This goes w/o saying!

BTW, some of my best friends are black. So I'm clean & guilt free.

72doug2,2S 08-22-2015 06:10 PM

It only matters to Democrats. They are the one's hung up on race, racist themselves, and desperately trying to fix themselves.

Good luck to them.

RANDY P 08-22-2015 07:25 PM

If you have problems being taken seriously, up your skills, or change where you are playing.

You are who you are. Never allow yourself to accept failure because you think your skin color had something to do with it- you'll never evolve if you think that. There are simply more of everyone else, of course you are going to notice that they "have it easier"

As for women, you will work harder here, no biggie. Up your game- become more of what your ideal is, friendly isn't enough even if you're white. Money talks and so does confidence.

rjp

Gretch 08-23-2015 03:28 AM

Attitude is way more than skin deep.

chicken **** affirmative action rules fly in the face of equality. people with the right attitude make a life around all the obstacles, anyway....... the parasite class?????????? not so much.

ckelly78z 08-23-2015 06:14 AM

Being a middle class, white, middle aged American, I can see where in an effort to level the playing field of diversity, many companies and Universities have gone the opposite direction and have started a trend of hiring a larger precentage of differing ethnic backgrounds than actually exist in society. So, when a job opening or college scholarship becomes available, someone with a background other than whitebread american, actually has a better chance of getting hired or rewarded......Go figure !

RANDY P 08-23-2015 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 8764060)
Being a middle class, white, middle aged American, I can see where in an effort to level the playing field of diversity, many companies and Universities have gone the opposite direction and have started a trend of hiring a larger precentage of differing ethnic backgrounds than actually exist in society. So, when a job opening or college scholarship becomes available, someone with a background other than whitebread american, actually has a better chance of getting hired or rewarded......Go figure !

....and along with that is a bunch of BS. No one gets along, they all have differing opinions on how things get done.

Sucks.

rjp

recycled sixtie 08-23-2015 06:22 AM

Heck no. I treat everybody the same and I expect the same from everybody else.

livi 08-23-2015 10:42 PM

Its all about context.

Tobra 08-24-2015 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AFC-911 (Post 8762790)
If it's only skin deep and we're all genetically the same. Why are there advantages to given to certain colors?

Does it matter to whom?

There is a name for the advantages given to certain colors. It is called affirmative action. I believe it is based on the supposition that racial diversity, in and of itself, is more important than performance.


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