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Scott R 09-07-2015 06:29 PM

As a 996 owner I like this idea. It now makes the 996NA into a nostalgia class car as it's a "pre-turbo" Porsche.

Noah930 09-07-2015 08:38 PM

Bring back the turbo stripes?

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don911 09-07-2015 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott R (Post 8785090)
As a 996 owner I like this idea. It now makes the 996NA into a nostalgia class car as it's a "pre-turbo" Porsche.

I feel the same way about my 991.

Nickshu 09-07-2015 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott R (Post 8785090)
As a 996 owner I like this idea. It now makes the 996NA into a nostalgia class car as it's a "pre-turbo" Porsche.

Yes soon we'll all be flabbergasted at the skyrocketing prices for NA 996s and 7s and we'll be reading "The Affordable Flat 4 Turbo Thread"

Lol!

aigel 09-08-2015 09:30 AM

There is a lot of pressure in Germany and other countries to keep CO2 low / fuel efficiency high. I read that the base model will get over 30mpg, which is tremendous for a sports car. This is what drives the turbo + small displacement.

What is always lagging in a turbo - well, the turbo! Throttle response and ability to drive at the limit will be a bit hampered for the purists, but I am sure they will patch that up okay.

In the end, I don't care. I am a classic Porsche enthusiast. Maybe one day I have so much money that I can buy a new one for S&Gs and sell it 5 years later, but there would be a lot of other cars I'd consider first ...

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BlueSkyJaunte 09-08-2015 09:35 AM

Nice to see the premium marques finally catching up to VW. :D

intakexhaust 09-08-2015 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 8784876)
Porsche will do an amazing job integrating the turbos. There's always, always, always skeptics regarding change at Porsche. Boxster, Cayman, Cayenne are three that come to mind recently. 924, 944 and 928 going back a few years.

Throttle response will be stunning along with fuel economy and emissions. There isn't a car built today that can last, especially as a DIY for 25 years. Hang on to your old 911's. Let's hope we all live long enough for those 25 year life spans to become a problem for us.

They don't want one to mess with the car or be a DIY type. They're purposely making it more difficult to hack and mod.

The more crap, specifically electrically in a vehicle, the higher probability of issues. I don't care what one says about being robust or longevity, extreme cold to heat range takes a toll on everything. Thanks to Federal laws, the keep it simple days are long gone.

Also, I don't see the entire line being turbo only but expect high performance hybrid's to come. They will harp of being the first, hub electric motor... Lohner.

Spending $100k will be entry level and you'll get the 100,000 mile warranty + maintenance treatment. After that, will be a crapshoot and these cars will depreciate big time.

GH85Carrera 09-08-2015 10:27 AM

My 1985 Carrera had a sticker price new at $35,000. Adjusted for inflation that is $75,000 in 2015 dollars.

I would bet they use the Turbo technology soon that has the electric motor spinning the Turbo to keep it spooled up.

No doubt ALL current cars are disposable. There will be no 15 year old cars 20 years.

sammyg2 09-08-2015 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 8784350)
And the problem is?

I'm all for turbos. Better efficiency and power!

The problem is not with the turbo, it's with Porsche.
They couldn't add a turbo to a bicycle for less than $50k.

gtc 09-08-2015 11:44 AM

Everyone also said the 996s were disposable.
Well, they've been around for close to 20 years now, and you still see crap-tons of early boxters and 996s on the road.

aigel 09-08-2015 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte (Post 8785773)
Nice to see the premium marques finally catching up to VW. :D

News flash: VW owns Porsche ...

GH85Carrera 09-08-2015 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aigel (Post 8785928)
News flash: VW owns Porsche ...

But the Porsche families own 50.7% of all the voting shares of VW. Who owns who is a matter difficult to pin down.

aigel 09-08-2015 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 8785936)
But the Porsche families own 50.7% of all the voting shares of VW. Who owns who is a matter difficult to pin down.

That doesn't matter. Even if they'd want to steer it down to that level, it would mean they all had to agree. Good luck with that! :)

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Deschodt 09-08-2015 02:42 PM

I don't have as strong an opinion on the turbocharging thing as I do about that $%#$% engine grill !!
I know 356s had it vertical, but it looks so wrong on the 911. Ugh, ugh ugh...

intakexhaust 09-08-2015 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gtc (Post 8785909)
Everyone also said the 996s were disposable.
Well, they've been around for close to 20 years now, and you still see crap-tons of early boxters and 996s on the road.

Sort of, perhaps. Relatively and in regards to Porsche, the Boxster was a higher production vehicle. I know many who have but now hesitant on driving them. The entire IMS issue has gotten them in the wallet and or are afraid putting miles on them. Beats me how many are out there, but I don't commonly see them on the road.

Yet, to maybe link the thread topic 944/928 as the cheap alternative, I'd say the Boxster tops them. I find respectable condition ones less priced than average condition 944 or 928's. Of course a PPI may reveal more but here's an example:

2000 MY with 72k miles for $7,000
2000 Porsche boxster convertible Mint Condition

intakexhaust 09-08-2015 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtc (Post 8785909)
Everyone also said the 996s were disposable.
Well, they've been around for close to 20 years now, and you still see crap-tons of early boxters and 996s on the road.

Dealer wholesale auction tops for this would be $2,000. The money is in the auto scrap yards:

Porsche cayenne Turbo !!!





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onewhippedpuppy 09-08-2015 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by intakexhaust (Post 8786163)
Sort of, perhaps. Relatively and in regards to Porsche, the Boxster was a higher production vehicle. I know many who have but now hesitant on driving them. The entire IMS issue has gotten them in the wallet and or are afraid putting miles on them. Beats me how many are out there, but I don't commonly see them on the road.

Yet, to maybe link the thread topic 944/928 as the cheap alternative, I'd say the Boxster tops them. I find respectable condition ones less priced than average condition 944 or 928's. Of course a PPI may reveal more but here's an example:

2000 MY with 72k miles for $7,000
2000 Porsche boxster convertible Mint Condition

Sorry, but the people you know are idiots if they don't drive a 986/996 because of IMS fears. Even in Podunk KS I see them everywhere, and know quite a few people that daily drive them. I drove a 996 year round, rain/snow/sun, and it was fantastic.

aigel 09-08-2015 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 8786116)
I don't have as strong an opinion on the turbocharging thing as I do about that $%#$% engine grill !!
I know 356s had it vertical, but it looks so wrong on the 911. Ugh, ugh ugh...

It is a very different design piece, making sure everyone knows the new model from the old without making much other design changes ... yes, it is not terribly good looking. Looks "slow" to me, in terms of flow of the lines.

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