When did the first White Hispanic die in America?

[72doug2,2S]

When did the first White Hispanic die in America?

1513 May 24

Of course, for four hundred and fifty years they didn't know they weren't just plain ole white, but rather White Hispanics. I wonder what they'd make of that description?

On this day, May 24, ships were sent to seek a mainland colony site and to sound and chart the newly found "Bay of the Holy Spirit" (Charlotte Harbor). For three weeks explorations continued, seldom by land. There were at least three meetings with the Caloosas; once they offered "guanin" (low gold) and skins for trade and promised more. But in other meetings fighting erupted and "several Indians" and one Spaniard were killed. Thus, the first white man died in America, victim of Indian arrows, and the place of his death was called "Matanca" (Pine Island).

[wdfifteen]

He looks very life-like in the picture. Kinda short maybe.

[GWN7]

Why is he hiding in the bushes if he's dead?

[sand_man]

He sorta looks like Captain Obvious (I should know, being the Admiral)...

[72doug2,2S]

He does have some King-like qualities as well.

[72doug2,2S]

Originally Posted by GWN7

Why is he hiding in the bushes if he's dead?

I have to find this guy.
Hmm, I may need to add a garden gnome or two to his display.

[Jim Richards]

Since when are Spaniards referred to as Hispanic?

[creaturecat]

since when were Spaniards not white?

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

Since when are Spaniards referred to as Hispanic?

I don't think Doug knows what Hispanic means.

[gacook]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

I don't think Doug knows what Hispanic means.

I think you're confusing Hispanics with Latinos. Spaniards ARE hispanic.

His·pan·ic
hiˈspanik/
adjective
1.
of or relating to Spain or to Spanish-speaking countries, especially those of Latin America.
noun
1.
a Spanish-speaking person living in the US, especially one of Latin American descent.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Doug is trolling, play along.

Originally Posted by gacook

I think you're confusing Hispanics with Latinos. Spaniards ARE hispanic.

His·pan·ic
hiˈspanik/
adjective
1.
of or relating to Spain or to Spanish-speaking countries, especially those of Latin America.
noun
1.
a Spanish-speaking person living in the US, especially one of Latin American descent.

[crb07]

I thought the first white Hispanic was that guy who shot the kid in Florida. Can't remember his name.

[Charles Freeborn]

I worked with a fine fellow from Spain once. When our company was claiming it's various minority credits for municipal project funding they told us "he's not Hispanic, he's European" .... all I could say was oy vey!....

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn

I worked with a fine fellow from Spain once. When our company was claiming it's various minority credits for municipal project funding they told us "he's not Hispanic, he's European" .... all I could say was oy vey!....

That's the crux of the thread.

I'm not sure why Doug didn't just put this in PARF. Maybe the trolling there has gotten boring.

[plexiform]

Originally Posted by 72doug2,2S

I have to find this guy.
Hmm, I may need to add a garden gnome or two to his display.

I'm no garden gnome expert but this one just looks spectacular..

[gamin]

My wife is a Spaniard. She has always referred to herself as European. She bristles at being compared to anything hispanic or latino, especially latlino.

[dennis in se pa]

I bet there were Nordics that died further north on the continent a few hundred years before this guy.

If you come from an area that speaks Spanish you are hispanic. That is the definition.

[72doug2,2S]

Originally Posted by Jim Richards

Since when are Spaniards referred to as Hispanic?

1970s under the Nixon administration.

Like I mentioned above, for 450 years they didn't know they were Hispanic.

[72doug2,2S]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

I don't think Doug knows what Hispanic means.

LOL Let's hear it Shaun. What do you mean?

[Jim Richards]

Originally Posted by 72doug2,2S

1970s under the Nixon administration.

Like I mentioned above, for 450 years they didn't know they were Hispanic.

Another example of Dicky being tricky.