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cashflyer 10-25-2015 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 8850979)
Ahh, no. I've never confiscated any guns. But this guy definitely was. You super-genius. :cool:

You are confusing.

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And why is it legal for them to seize the guns if they are not illegal to own?
(A)
Nicholson was arrested and charged with trafficking opium and heroin, earlier in the week in Union County. Deputies reportedly went to serve him with a subpoena Friday and noticed what appeared to be stolen goods in his front yard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_forfeiture#United_States

(B)
Many of the guns were identified as stolen property, so the police take them to their clubhouse.

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Wonder if they'll try to return them to their original owners
Only the ones that were registered in the NCIC database.

on2wheels52 10-26-2015 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 8851087)
(B)
Many of the guns were identified as stolen property, so the police take them to their clubhouse.


Only the ones that were registered in the NCIC database.

I'd say that's correct. There is no database accessible to FFL holders to check if a firearm is 'hot'.
I've been to a number of sheriff's gun auctions, never bought anything though.
I can't tell you how much (little) I miss dealing with the ATF paperwork.
Jim

berettafan 10-26-2015 06:15 AM

that picture of the guns stacked up like cordwood is painful to look at.

URY914 10-26-2015 06:32 AM

I'm thinking everyone of those guns may not make it back to the station.

cashflyer 10-26-2015 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 8851398)
I'm thinking everyone of those guns may not make it back to the station.

In South Carolina, we call that "a safe bet".

Scuba Steve 10-26-2015 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by gogriz91 (Post 8851009)
Wonder if they'll try to return them to their original owners or just auction them all off? There could be some great deals depending on what you're looking for.

If the serial number comes back as reported stolen I'm sure they will get in touch with the owner.

Racerbvd 10-26-2015 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 8851398)
I'm thinking everyone of those guns may not make it back to the station.

They never do:(

sammyg2 10-26-2015 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 8850926)
And why is it legal for them to seize the guns if they are not illegal to own?

Great question.
Police confiscate guns for only one reason, so we cannot HAVE them.

Unless I missed it, the article did not specifically say the guns were stolen.

The po-po just decided that guy shouldn't have guns so they TOOK THEM.


Who's next?

porsche4life 10-26-2015 11:58 AM

So let me get this straight Sammy. You are completely ok with a drug dealer having 7k guns in his possession? Seriously!?!?

KFC911 10-26-2015 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 8851929)
Great question.
Police confiscate guns for only one reason, so we cannot HAVE them.

Unless I missed it, the article did not specifically say the guns were stolen.

The po-po just decided that guy shouldn't have guns so they TOOK THEM.


Who's next?

It's always "follow the money".

You can thank our drug laws for the reason why....LE is a business after all.

That dude was just a hoarder of stolen crap....mostly worthless crap at that....at least those POS guns aren't circulating.....heck, I might have been interested in his chainsaws....except for the crap factor....no Poulans allowed :D

cashflyer 10-26-2015 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 8851929)
Unless I missed it, the article did not specifically say the guns were stolen.

You may have missed it.

In the first link, it was the headline that gave it away:
7,000+ stolen guns seized from warehouse in South Carolina

In the second link, the first line of the story was:
Deputies estimate that they’ve seized between 7,000 and 10,000 stolen guns from a house and warehouse near Pageland.

speeder 10-26-2015 01:13 PM

Yes, the guy was a thief. He snuck into people's houses and stole their guns, as well as other valuables, I'm sure.

But Sammy thinks he should keep them.

patz 10-26-2015 01:16 PM

Since I can read, the article "I" read said that the arrested homeowner had hired others to steal the weapons or he bought them afterwards.

Whether that is true or not is open since it comes from the PD and is reprinted on the internet.

speeder 10-26-2015 01:27 PM

Stolen property is stolen property whether they can prove he initially stole them or not. He doesn't get to keep them. Wouldn't matter if they were camp stoves or AK-47s.

SilberUrS6 10-26-2015 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 8852000)
You may have missed it.

In the first link, it was the headline that gave it away:
7,000+ stolen guns seized from warehouse in South Carolina

In the second link, the first line of the story was:
Deputies estimate that they’ve seized between 7,000 and 10,000 stolen guns from a house and warehouse near Pageland.

Like every other PARF denizen, he hears what he wants to hear, ignores the rest, then offers an opinion based on what he "heard".

LOL, just LOL.

MRM 10-26-2015 01:34 PM

What a horribly written article. The reader has to reread the text and tease the meaning out of the words. The article says both that the guns were stolen and that they authorities don't know how he acquired them. Then it goes on to talk about unrelated drug charges and unspecified stolen property observed in the guy's yard. Was he keeping guns in his yard? Did he really steal 7,000 guns and hundreds of chain saws or was he buying them and hoarding them? Was he buying stolen property? All of these are good questions, and we can guess many of the likely answers, but the article doesn't actually come out and say:

"A 51 year old Chesterfield County resident was arrested on Tuesday for possession of more than 7,000 stolen firearms. Police came to the rural Chesterfield County farm of Brent Nicholson to serve him with a subpoena on an unrelated civil claim. While executing the arrest warrant officers observed stolen chainsaws and animal heads in Nicholson's front yard. Officers then searched his property for additional stolen items, finding the cache of firearms and uncovering evidence that Nichols was dealing vast amounts of opiates. Officials suspect, but have not confirmed, that Nichols received the stolen firearms as payment for drugs. They state that Nichols appeared to simply hoard the guns, almost all of which were ordinary hunting rifles and shotguns, and that there was no evidence he sold any. There was no official explanation for the hoard of animal heads and chainsaws. A law enforcement official with knowledge of the situation spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid interfering with an ongoing investigation. According to the official, Nichols was just an ordinary country boy who just liked guns, chainsaws and animals heads, but wasn't very particular about his housekeeping. He meant to put them on the wall in his man cave, the official reported, but Nichols never got around to finishing his basement so they just stacked up on the floor and in his sheds until the oft-delayed man cave project was finished. There was no Mrs. Nichols at the farm and evidence suggested that she moved back to town some time ago. There was no indication of a female's attendance inside the home for a number of years, but the chainsaws were all fully oiled and filled with gas."

See how easy it is to write a paragraph that actually conveys information?

cashflyer 10-26-2015 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by patz (Post 8852035)
Whether that is true or not is open since it comes from the PD and is reprinted on the internet.

http://i.imgur.com/sbNnWEx.jpg

tabs 10-26-2015 01:37 PM

Hillarys genius plan

ATF + DEA = Drugs for Guns Program.

Pretty soon all the guns will be confiscated.

Racerbvd 10-26-2015 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MRM (Post 8852057)
What a horribly written article. The reader has to reread the text and tease the meaning out of the words. The article says both that the guns were stolen and that they authorities don't know how he acquired them. Then it goes on to talk about unrelated drug charges and unspecified stolen property observed in the guy's yard. Was he keeping guns in his yard? Did he really steal 7,000 guns and hundreds of chain saws or was he buying them and hoarding them? Was he buying stolen property?

See how easy it is to write a paragraph that actually conveys information?

More likely he was trading drugs for the stuff. It is even harder reading when reading off a phone.

KFC911 10-26-2015 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 8852064)
More likely he was trading drugs for the stuff. It is even harder reading when reading off a phone.

Yep...probably prescription meds (OxyContin et al) and heroin when the "good stuff" wasn't available....I'd bet most pharmacies dispense more than this lowlife however.

Follow the money...


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