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Old 11-12-2015, 09:32 AM
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French doors + freezer in the bottom + ice in the door is a complete waste of space. I agree you want side by side if ice / water in door are mandatory.

I find that fridges are easily bought used on CL for a very significant discount. My latest is a $300 unit that was $1500 new. My garage fridge was $50 for a 3 year old unit with a dent - about $700 new.

I cannot get myself to spend $2500 on a fridge. As I said in the other fridge thread - my beer is just as cold out of my $50 unit ...

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We went from a side by side to a french door freezer on the bottom and I wouldn't go back. Ours has a cheap filter that is easy to replace once a year.

We also have an upright freezer for all our meats and such.

Samsung is the brand but I don't remember the model.
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Old 11-12-2015, 09:38 AM
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We went from a side by side to a french door freezer on the bottom and I wouldn't go back. Ours has a cheap filter that is easy to replace once a year.

We also have an upright freezer for all our meats and such.

Samsung is the brand but I don't remember the model.
Agreed I have the same unit as do my parents.

Samsung RF24FSEDBSR

3 years now and it's been outstanding. We really like the french doors with bottom freezer. The middle drawer is for snacks, sandwich meats, cheese, hor dourves, yada yada. Will never go back to the traditional side by side.
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My two cents. Most appliances these days are built to a very poor standard and do not last,
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Bought a new LG fridge a year and a half ago.

We got the side by side with the freezer below, that is the best design IMO. The freezer has two sliding shelves and a compartment below for three separate storage areas, easy to keep things separate and organized.

Forget about that door in a door crap IMO, waste of money and space.

We bought the largest non-built-in fridge they had, I believe it is 35.5 cu ft.

When we were deciding I asked the wife one question:
when was the last time you wished you had a SMALLER fridge?
She said never.

We are very happy with this fridge so far. ZERO issues or problemos, filters are cheep on evil-bay.

I believe I paid around $2300 at Pacific sales, my favo-rite store in the whole world.

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An oldie but a moldy:

Back when I was a bachelor I had some yogurt sitting in the fridge so long it came to life.

So I taught it to sing opera. You talk about culture ..........

ba da bing.

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We have a side by side Kenmore with water/ice in the door. Not an Elite but not cheap, I think it was at least $2500 on sale. We are about 3 years in and I have already had to replace the agitator motor in the freezer door for the ice maker, and the door is starting to visibly rust under the ice/water cutout. Cheap POS, I would happily spend double for something that would give me a solid 10 years of reliable use.
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Never happened to me... but then I don't live with a house full of unemployed hipsters... and my dogs know that the easiest-to-fetch food is in the pantry, not the fridge. What's in the fridge is cold, and they are all too short to reach the microwave.



Never gonna happen...

I'm with that other Okie on this... my fridge doesn't need a Facebook page or a twitter account.

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I work in the appliance industry and sit on the advanced product development steering committee. Trust me, consumers will expect, at a minimum, all high end appliances to provide some basic level of connectivity. Your generation might not want that, but the younger generations all will expect it. Read about the Internet of Things to get some background.

All our appliances will connect to the Internet to provide monitoring, basic controls, and, most importantly, remote connectivity for service and support. It's already happening.
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how about to get an alert on your phone that someone left the door open?

how about having the manufacturer's service department access the fridge and download all the operating stats prior to making a service call so that they brought all the right replacement parts on the 1st trip?
I don't know that I have ever even once accidentally left the door open or found it open. And I prefer a fridge that does not need any service. Our current fridge is 18 years old and has never been touched by any service person and I have never had to do anything to it except put food and beer in and take it back out.
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I work in the appliance industry and sit on the advanced product development steering committee. Trust me, consumers will expect, at a minimum, all high end appliances to provide some basic level of connectivity. Your generation might not want that, but the younger generations all will expect it. Read about the Internet of Things to get some background.

All our appliances will connect to the Internet to provide monitoring, basic controls, and, most importantly, remote connectivity for service and support. It's already happening.
With that professional background, how about sharing some tips to find an appliance that doesn't NEED to connect to the internet for diagnostics? I understand the usefulness of a tech being able to diagnose via the internet, but would much rather have one that doesn't break to begin with.

As for the other features, I find it hard to believe that anyone cares about having an internet browser on their refrigerator when they have a far superior device in their pocket. It will be much like car infotainment systems - within a year the system is obsolete and inferior to a smartphone app that is continuously updated, running on hardware that is replaced by the user every two years. My wife and I am 35, and I in particular am very tech aware and work in a high tech industry. I could not be more indifferent to the internet features of my fridge. I do, however, greatly care about quality construction, clever features to allow it to store my food more efficiently, attractive industrial design, and reliability. So when I buy a new higher end model, likely within the next six months after we remodel our kitchen, I won't be looking for any of the features that you mentioned. On the contrary, I will avoid such pointless features because they add complexity and cost and reduce reliability. So there's my opinion from a focus group of 1.
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I don't know that I have ever even once accidentally left the door open or found it open. And I prefer a fridge that does not need any service. Our current fridge is 18 years old and has never been touched by any service person and I have never had to do anything to it except put food and beer in and take it back out.


Clearly you don't have kids in the house. Ours are old enough to not do it now... But it has happened.
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Several months ago, I saw an ad for a Samsung fridge wit LED interior lights (wow!!!) on my FB feed. Out of curiosity, I clicked on the ad and started reading the FB comments. There were so many complaints from people whose refrigerators just happened to fail after their warranties expired. I am not sure I would ever advertise on FB, it's too easy for people to post their complaints and make you look bad.
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I work in the appliance industry and sit on the advanced product development steering committee. Trust me, consumers will expect, at a minimum, all high end appliances to provide some basic level of connectivity. Your generation might not want that, but the younger generations all will expect it. Read about the Internet of Things to get some background.

All our appliances will connect to the Internet to provide monitoring, basic controls, and, most importantly, remote connectivity for service and support. It's already happening.
You are right, I DO NOT want it.
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Clearly you don't have kids in the house. Ours are old enough to not do it now... But it has happened.
My kids have never left the fridge open...

His comment about getting a text that someone had left the fridge open had me pondering what do you do when you get that text? I'm sure as hell not leaving work and driving home just to close it.
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You silly engineers. I'm a networking guy....I'll be shopping for a refrigerator/router
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I work in the appliance industry and sit on the advanced product development steering committee. Trust me, consumers will expect, at a minimum, all high end appliances to provide some basic level of connectivity. Your generation might not want that, but the younger generations all will expect it.
Well, good luck to the young 'uns. From what I see, they live in a disposable society. They can't fix anything, it's too easy to just go get another one.

I'm with Glen, I don't need the added complexity, nor the parts obsolescence that goes along with it. I have a basic fridge, it's never needed service after 18 years and I'm happy with that.

Word of advice for the steering committee... Keep it basic and engineer it to last forever. Keep the parts in the supply chain forever. Nothing pisses me off more than to need a $20 part that can't be found anywhere in the universe, so I have to junk something that's otherwise perfectly fine.

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what do you do when you get that text? I'm sure as hell not leaving work and driving home just to close it.
You text the roomba and tell it to bump into the door.

Seems to me that the manufacturers should be worrying about building a fridge to last ten years without service, rather than adding connectivity. How about a fridge that doesn't need service as opposed to one that calls for service and new software regularly?
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You text the roomba and tell it to bump into the door.

Seems to me that the manufacturers should be worrying about building a fridge to last ten years without service, rather than adding connectivity. How about a fridge that doesn't need service as opposed to one that calls for service and new software regularly?
Priceless! Thanks for the laugh.
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One thing to keep in mind...

You sell something that lasts forever, you can only sell a certain number and then you're done. You sell something that lasts slightly longer than your competitors, you're in business selling new ones forever.
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I was shopping for a clothes dryer many years back.

I walked past one after another of the dryers with LED displays and digital this and that and computers and what not.
I walked past all of them and told the store clerk, I'll take THIS ONE as I pointed to a plain white dryer with one analog knob and a push button start switch.

It was $100 cheaper than all that built in obsolescence crap and mine is still working fine today.



THAT is what consumers want. Simple, efficient, reliable value.


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