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John Rogers 12-25-2015 03:50 PM

The Revenant.........Wow
 
Watched the new movie The Revenant today......whoa it was intense for sure. I mainly wanted to see the use of the muzzle loaders and how accurate the film would show their use since that is what I shoot now days and they were not too bad. For sure the Indians of the various tribes can shoot arrows MUCH faster than a flint lock! I would not be surprised if 'ol Leonardo got an Oscar nod for his work in this one? I was also interested because my wife's grandfather was a trapper and hunter near the Canadian border and she said he used to tell them tails of what they did and how rough it was and she said maybe he was not a BS'r after all. It sure makes me glad to live in the land of warmth and sunshine!

If you want to escape for a bit I'd recommend it for sure and if anyone wants to try one of those rifles, we have a black powder match on the first Sunday of each month at the South Bay Rod and Gun Club near beautiful Dulzura. I'll even loan a rifle for a shot or two.

Nickshu 12-25-2015 04:44 PM

Looks great in the trailers... Can't wait to see it!

stevej37 01-08-2016 02:01 PM

Saw it today...amazing movie! Some incredible camera shots and scenery. Those guys in that time era sure were tough!

cheeze 01-08-2016 02:32 PM

Personally did not enjoy The Revenant. Dream sequences were awful. They shot hyper realistically and mostly without green screen, but the plot was totally far fetched. Leo gave a great performance though. Not sure I would say the same of Tom Hardy.

Jolly Amaranto 01-08-2016 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cheeze (Post 8949593)
but the plot was totally far fetched.

It was loosely based on a true story.
The Revenant: The True Story of the Leonardo DiCaprio Movie

stevej37 01-08-2016 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cheeze (Post 8949593)
Leo gave a great performance though. Not sure I would say the same of Tom Hardy.

Tom Hardy plays a despicable character...hard for viewers to like, but I thought he did it very well.

cheeze 01-08-2016 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jolly Amaranto (Post 8949654)

SPOILER ALERT

Yes, yes. I had no problems with the story. It was the way it was fleshed out, particularly his recovery of his broken leg. It was never freakin set! And then he just one day is able to limp on it, then the next walk on it!

I think this was a function or symptom of a poor display of time. I am fine with a deliberately slow pacing, but the time scale during his recovery was confusing as hell.

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 8949686)
Tom Hardy plays a despicable character...hard for viewers to like, but I thought he did it very well.

I didn't care for his performance, not so much his character. I can't get behind his American accents, especially since I saw him in "The Drop". His performance wasn't half bad in that abomination "Legend" however.

plexiform 01-10-2016 04:34 AM

Excellent movie!! I'm always fascinated with movies showing how tough the people who built this country truly were. Maybe a little exaggerated with rapid healing times, etc but at the end its a movie and has to stretch the imagination to some degree.

seanratpel 01-10-2016 03:03 PM

Heard they spent close to a million dollars on the Grizzly scene alone. I can see why, fantastic special effects. Great movie overall I thought.

URY914 01-10-2016 04:54 PM

Saw it today. Wish I hadn't.

The guy cheated death how many times? 6-8?
The bear injuries alone would have killed him.
You think his wounds would have gotten infected?
People used to die from a hang nail back then.

How about hypothermia?
He floats down a river, washes up on the bank totally soaked and exhausted.
The next scene he has a fire going and he's completely dry.

So many things wrong with it from a practical stand point.

9dreizig 01-10-2016 07:58 PM

Great movie!!! Yes there was some theatrical privilege taken but it is based on a true story and in general pretty realistic. .. can't wait to see it again

WPOZZZ 01-10-2016 10:29 PM

The opening scene where Glass and his son are hunting is incredible! The cinematography draws you in, then the sound effects of the running water makes it feel like you are there.

pavulon 01-11-2016 01:04 AM

Isn't that what a revenant would do?

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 8952125)
Saw it today. Wish I hadn't.

The guy cheated death how many times? 6-8?
The bear injuries alone would have killed him.
You think his wounds would have gotten infected?
People used to die from a hang nail back then.

How about hypothermia?
He floats down a river, washes up on the bank totally soaked and exhausted.
The next scene he has a fire going and he's completely dry.

So many things wrong with it from a practical stand point.


sand_man 01-11-2016 04:59 AM

Saw it last night with my son. My son's reaction as we exited: "THAT WAS G-R-I-S-L-Y!!!!"
The camera work and cinematography were top! Definitely a movie to escape in. Maybe a bit overindulgent against the actual story, but it's entertainment. I guess that's when men were men!

Tom Hardy was my favorite, and I will have to see it again, just so I can get a handle on his lines; he talks as if he has a mouth full of marbles and beaver azz!

URY914 01-11-2016 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 8952403)
Isn't that what a revenant would do?

Yes that is the definition of the word, but call it whatever you want and it won't make the story anymore believable. Watching closeups of Leo's face as he crawled through the snow gets boring after the first hour.

I see he won a Golden Globe last night for it. Good for him and for the folks that liked the movie. He must have had an any easy time learning his lines being that he only had 50 or so lines to learn. Kinda like Tom Hanks in the "Cast Away".

I liked "Jeremiah Johnson" with Redford better.

Sunroof 01-11-2016 05:45 AM

This is a remake of the movie, "Man in the Wilderness" with Richard Harris back in the 70's. Same theme, but no child murder, just a guy attacked by a bear, left for dead and manages to defy the odds and make it back to civilization. I saw the Revenant his past weekend and thought it was incredible. The picture was filmed in "natural light" and the scenery breathtaking, but I agree that he should have died of so many things considering the environmental conditions and his wounds. It already took three awards and I expect the Oscars as well. Not a movie for the faint hearted, but a masterpiece of acting by Dicaprio. Worth the watch.

John Rogers 01-11-2016 08:58 AM

I think people were a lot tougher a long time ago? Back in the 20's and 30's my mother used to hang up laundry when there was snow on the ground, below freezing with plain shoes on, light sweater only and never caught so much as a cold! The laundry would dry and be stiff as a board when she brought it in but when it heated up......it was dry? Now days my wife won't even go down stairs to do any laundry if the outside air temp is less than 50 degrees!

MRM 01-11-2016 10:29 AM

Yes, they did, and my mother's mother died of pneumonia doing exactly that in the 30s when my mother was an infant and her mother was about 29. There is a reason we live decades longer (on average) than our ancestors did just a generation or two ago.

gordner 01-11-2016 10:53 AM

I thought the revenant was at least two hours too long. Amazing cinematography but a boooooring movie with no appeal to me. Felt like I wasted my time watching it, totally anti-climactic. Long for the sake of long no substance and just totally uninteresting, the movie never engaged me in the slightest.
His unbelievable healing powers should be studied though....Seems that guy would have died ten times over if it was even moderately based on reality.

Hugh R 01-11-2016 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by john rogers (Post 8952888)
The laundry would dry and be stiff as a board when she brought it in but when it heated up......it was dry?

Sublimation is the transition of a substance directly from the solid to the gas phase without passing through the intermediate liquid phase.

I may go see it this coming weekend. I write off movie tickets as research in my field of work. ;)

John Rogers 01-11-2016 01:58 PM

Yes Hugh, I know that now.......after years of Navy Nuclear Power training and thermodynamics, etc, etc. Back then when I was 7 or 8 years old.......it was "magic"!

Macroni 01-17-2016 03:47 PM

Far Fetched

Baz 01-17-2016 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Macroni (Post 8961582)
Far Fetched

Cool! Right up my ally!

I don't go to movies to see crap I can see every day - I go to escape!

:D

Gogar 01-17-2016 04:20 PM

I don't understand people who go to see a Hollywood movie and then get mad because it isn't a documentary.

NY65912 01-18-2016 02:35 AM

Saw it Sat evening. Not impressed, although I do like Leo. I found it difficult to put the story together. The dream scences were hard to understand.

craigster59 01-18-2016 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 8961630)
I don't understand people who go to see a Hollywood movie and then get mad because it isn't a documentary.

You mean to say if they turned the camera around 180 degrees from the action of Leo starving and freezing in the bitter wilderness, we would see 50 people standing around in North Face, and Mountain Hardwear parkas, sipping hot cappuccinos and eating pastries? Say it ain't so!

craigster59 01-18-2016 11:56 AM

I liked it. Drew you in, kept the story moving, great cinematography and acting. The sound editing seemed a little muddy but worth seeing.

Movies are an escape. When some Pelicans were complaining about The Lone Ranger and how you couldn't have a horse chase on a train, well I think you're just missing the whole point.

Jeff Higgins 01-18-2016 02:51 PM

As a somewhat enthusiastic student of the era, and of all things relating to the Rocky Mountain fur trade era, I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. It was difficult to find fault with anything regarding the setting, the men, their equipment, their methods - any of it. The only thing that bothered me was their use of the term "tree nigger" - in literally dozens of sources, from first hand accounts to biographies of the men involved, I never ran across that term. Ever. "Bug's Boys" was the chosen label for the Blackfeet and pretty much every tribe they ran across. "Bugs" was the Devil himself - so, the "Devil's Boys". You can see where they got to feeling that way...

As far as survival under those conditions, with that equipment - everything portrayed in this movie is entirely accurate. Nothing far-fetched or the least bit unbelievable about the manner in which they made their way in the wilderness. The story of Hugh Glass is very well documented in a number of historical accounts; he really did spend months literally crawling out of the wilderness after having been mauled by a bear. The only inaccuracy in the movie was the presence of his son - he was not there. It was another grown man in addition to Bridger and Fitzgerald. Jim Bridger was very real, and recounted this story himself - Glass let him live because he was just a kid (17 years old) and on his first trip.

So, yes - a very accurate portrayal of the men, the times, and the location. The most accurate I have ever seen. Yes, Keith and Heston were great in The Mountain Men and Redford was great in Jeremiah Johnson (the real man's name was plain old John, by the way), but this one brought the authenticity to a whole new level.

jyl 01-24-2016 08:49 PM

I liked the movie, didn't love it. I'm not thinking it should win an Oscar or that DiCaprio should. The bear, though, should win some award.

Edit: I guess I should say "why". The plot was really predictable. You know he survives alone in the wilderness, so you know the boy is dying as soon as his dad can't protect him. The bad guy is identified as bad from the first scene where he opens his mouth. As soon as you learn about the missing daughter, you know she is going to cross paths with Glass. And so on. Nothing that happens is any surprise - at best, there is some mild curiosity, hmm it is about time for him to fall in a river or run into hostile Indians, wonder which it will be today?. In fact, after a while you've seen Glass wake up, crawl out from his bear blanket, and promptly suffer some abuse or encounter some danger, so often, that it gets to be the frontier version of "wake up and go to work", except that he doesn't get any coffee first. Absent anything unexpected happening, you have to get your pleasures from how beautifully or realistically or intensely filmed the predictable event is when it shows up as expected. And it is all that: the cinematography is impressive, all the wound makeup is cool, and DiCaprio has a good "I'm suffering" expression that he gets to use a awful lot. So, it was a good movie. But hardly a great one.

By the way, I was bothered by one detail. In an otherwise meticulous movie. How come everyone's hair is filthy, lank, greasy - and the boy's hair always looks like its just been blow dried?

If you want to go see one of the Oscar Best Picture nominees, I would recommend "Spotlight".

JavaBrewer 01-24-2016 09:26 PM

Saw it last Friday. Not a fan.

Paul K 01-25-2016 12:28 AM

Terrible movie. Complete waste of time & money.

Three shots from a muzzle loader without reloading. Longbow arrows with impossible velocity. Poor cgi on the bear attack. Geology & habitat not consistent (rain forest one minute, tundra the next). Lighting gun powder to cauterize a neck wound- medically ridiculous. I could go on, but I think you get the point.

Chocaholic 01-25-2016 04:13 AM

Saw it over the weekend. One primary thought. It was an exercise in producing Oscars for acting and cinematography. Everything else was secondary. Out of balance with a predictable and comparatively under-developed story line.

Macroni 01-25-2016 06:24 AM

watched "What's eating Gilbert Grape" last night.... that was an Oscar worthy performance by Leo..... simply excellent, hard to believe Tommy Lee Jones beat him for "The Fugitive"......

mikesride 01-28-2016 07:00 PM

My favorite part was when he grunted and groaned and crawled through the snow......FOR THREE FREAKING AGONIZING BORING HOURS...... I couldn't wait to get out of there...I only stayed because we went with friends....who at the end of the movie also thought it was an OK story that could have been told in 20 mins....

Gogar 01-28-2016 07:04 PM

this movie was totes stupid everyone knows they didn't have movie cameras in 1823

berettafan 01-30-2016 08:27 AM

saw it last night. mikesride's statement about the movie seems accurate.

don't think i'll bother to see it again.

craigster59 01-30-2016 08:30 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1454175048.jpg

sand_man 01-30-2016 08:45 AM

^^^that's a cool picture. Were you involved with this one, craigster?

craigster59 01-30-2016 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sand_man (Post 8978347)
^^^that's a cool picture. Were you involved with this one, craigster?

No. Revnant was shot in Canada and Argentina. This was posted on Facebook. A page called " Behind The Clapperboard". If you're on FB there's great behind the scenes photos of old and new films.

CAUTION!: It could destroy your whole concept of the reality of film! :)


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