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stomachmonkey 01-10-2016 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 8951487)
Lottery winners and professional athletes have a significantly higher bankruptcy rate than the average citizen, so what Mike said is certainly true.

True,

I think there is an amount that anyone could easily blow.

But at some point one can have so much money that blowing it is difficult.

You'd have to basically give it away.

If you blow it on material possessions they retain some residual value.

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stomachmonkey 01-10-2016 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 8951493)
Definitely would want to get the majority of the money tied up in investments to where it couldn't be pissed off. One benefit to taking the annuity is you only get a chunk every year.

People who have taken the annuity are no more immune to wasting the whole thing.

It can actually be worse because they take out loans using the future payments as collateral and they pay interest on the loan.

Also, IIRC, payouts are not transferrable. Meaning if you die in a car crash leaving the lottery office then your heirs get nothing.

pavulon 01-10-2016 08:28 AM

If one had some sort of (?any?) self-discipline it would obviously be a better deal but is a calculated risk involving personal longevity, potential for tax changes and fate.

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 8951507)
People who have taken the annuity are no more immune to wasting the whole thing.

It can actually be worse because they take out loans using the future payments as collateral and they pay interest on the loan.

Also, IIRC, payouts are not transferrable. Meaning if you die in a car crash leaving the lottery office then your heirs get nothing.


jyl 01-10-2016 09:04 AM

I'd support some local arts groups - dance, music, etc.

Fund some tutoring programs for poor kids.

Help fund some local advocacy groups - politically effective ones.

Get back into Chinese brush calligraphy.

Racerbvd 01-10-2016 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 8951512)
If one had some sort of (?any?) self-discipline it would obviously be a better deal but is a calculated risk involving personal longevity, potential for tax changes and fate.

Well, if that is the case, I would need to take the lump sum:cool:
Course, not until I talk to me attorney & CPA.
I would also go out in disguise so no one would recognize me ;)
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mreid 01-10-2016 09:09 AM

Most lottery winners who bankrupted in the future had issues when they won. The win put their issues on steroids and caused simply a more colossal fail.

New GT3rs as my commuter car to the charities I would fund for the homeless and hungry. A man's got to have principles.

Gogar 01-10-2016 09:14 AM

If you win that much money you spend a lot of it trying to become anonymous again.

Porsche-O-Phile 01-10-2016 10:44 AM

$1.3B. The aggravating part is the govt would take over a half billion of that and piss it away on more stupidity. Aww heck, who am I kidding - they'd already spent it long ago. Just irks me that you get a check with the tax man standing there with his hand out and a big schyte eating grin on his face.

Perhaps if our government actually spent money on things that are worthwhile and sensible / sustainable it wouldn't bother me so much.

DanielDudley 01-10-2016 11:12 AM

If I won the lottery, I'd probably take Fridays off.

dafischer 01-10-2016 11:32 AM

Hit the auction circuit (Barret Jackson, Mecum, etc.) and buy some cars that I've always wanted, cost be damned. And of course a brand new climate controlled stable to keep them in.

Philanthropy to be decided later.

daepp 01-10-2016 11:49 AM

I would fund a scholarship or foundation to help individuals who have proven they are trying hard to improve themselves but who are poor or without parents, to provide one-on-one mentoring for k-16 Education.

One person, at full time pay middle class wages, mentoring no more than 4 kids at one time. Bonuses of up to 50% of their salaries for gpa growth, graduation rates etc.

john70t 01-10-2016 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dafischer (Post 8951749)
Philanthropy to be decided later.

No sir. Act immediately.

Take the structured settlement over 1500000 years. Or whatever. Providing the source will be good for it.
-Create your own charity with the right people (as only a part of this).
That is the standard tax dodge for some of the elite.
It is a good thing in many ways.

-Accept payments into a trust or other fund.

-Delegate structured annuities to that fund or many many others of interest.

-You are removed from the recipients. You get a loss. The charity gets a bonus.
Reduce your personal tax bracket to acceptable levels.

-Have a good lawyer set up all your life planning interests.
(hint: that means...um...a specialized lawyer at least.)

-Have your personal wishes meet their goals better.

-[BTW I'm an idiot. This is free internet advice.]

SilberUrS6 01-10-2016 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 8951693)
The aggravating part is the govt would take over a half billion

And?

There is no place that doesn't have taxes of some kind or another. And there isn't any other place on the planet where'd you'd want to live where you'd get away for less. And griping about taxes on free money? That's about as whiny a whine as there is. I know, let's complain because all the money in the lottery system has already been taxed! And will be again, as soon as you spend it. And the investment gains taxed! Oh, dear - taxes! I can see complaining about taxes on earned income, but complaining about the taxes on free money just doesn't make any sense.

1990C4S 01-10-2016 01:23 PM

It's not free money, you bought a ticket (worth about 10% of what you paid). But it is income and should be taxed appropriately.

There are lots of lotteries around the world where (residents) are not taxed on the winnings, this isn't one of them.

SilberUrS6 01-10-2016 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 8951877)
It's not free money, you bought a ticket

$2.00 out of 1.3 BILLION is so close to be free as to not be an argument. That is one cent out of every $6,500,000 won. Yeah, with this kind of money, pretty much any match of 3 numbers out of the six is "free money".

I'd like to know the legal foundation of holding the winning ticket as an individual, and then creating a trust to administer it in such a way that you could avoid paying income tax. Specialty lawyer is right.

LEAKYSEALS951 01-10-2016 02:34 PM

Update:
I won another $4.
Total earnings: $8.

With the payout so high, In addition to my cheesy 4x4 volvo, I would buy several singers for daily drivers, but make him do one in 15 inch wheels. Screw the big brakes.

As for the taxes, I would spend my after tax income to do an Andy Rooney type 60 minutes article on exactly where my lottery winning tax dollars went, tracking every cent. I would then air it on national TV.

I would also spend $$$ to find and harass Stone Phillips. He erks me.

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john70t 01-10-2016 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SilberUrS6 (Post 8951914)
I'd like to know the legal foundation of holding the winning ticket as an individual, and then creating a trust to administer it in such a way that you could avoid paying income tax. Specialty lawyer is right.

Any person or entity should be free to utilize the standard current tax code to their best interests.
Or their charitable contributions after the fact.

(That national tax code is now severely warped, cough, cough, to my understanding)

Back at 'ya:
Hey, I'd like to know the legal foundation for the government being involved in pyramid schemes.

SilberUrS6 01-10-2016 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 8951960)
Any person or entity should be free to utilize the standard current tax code to their best interests.
Or their charitable contributions after the fact.

(That national tax code is now severely warped, cough, cough, to my understanding)

Back at 'ya:
Hey, I'd like to know the legal foundation for the government being involved in pyramid schemes.

That doesn't answer the question. I'm interested in which law makes it possible not some sort of philosophical monkeyspanking on the issue. BTW, in answer to your question: the U.S. Constitution. Read it sometime, it's really interesting.

A930Rocket 01-10-2016 07:22 PM

We have a running joke that if one of us won, that person would buy each of track buddies a new Porsche cup car. I'd throw in a motorcoach and trailer for my friends as well. We always had fun tracking our cars and I miss this days.

911SauCy 01-11-2016 09:15 AM

I'd get everything in order, lawyers, investment people etc before I did anything.

On my way out the door of my current gig, I would give each of the employees and my boss a few mil each. The boss is constantly trying to figure out what the "next big thing" is so he can "make money", which effectively keeps him from being successful.

My project: I would get networked within the industry to open a boutique Porsche shop in the New England area. Specifically to take on Singer and sweep Magnus under the rug. The ideas I have/have had are as good/better than theirs... Without the nest egg, I don't have to time to walk away from life and start something of the sort.

That is only after I've trained for and finished an Ironman.


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