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mreid 01-12-2016 06:18 PM

So far the advice is incomplete as your supplied info is incorrect.

1. Do you have more than 50 employees (not counting contractors)?
2. Do you offer STD (not that kind you dirty thinkers, short term disability)?
3. Did you continue to pay her salary during fml (either salary continuation or std)?
4. Do you have all the paperwork declaring her leave as fml?
5. Did you document her poor performance (it's not too late to document everything and collect performance statements from others)?
6. What does her performance review AND salary increase history look like (saying she is an poor performer, but then having a positive or neutral performance appraisal or merit increases detract from your credibility)?

Even in the communist state of California you can be successful, but you have to have your act and documents together.

stealthn 01-12-2016 07:07 PM

What's her doctors phone number? I feel "dizzy" too

Tidybuoy 01-13-2016 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mreid (Post 8955251)
So far the advice is incomplete as your supplied info is incorrect.

1. Do you have more than 50 employees (not counting contractors)?
Yes,135 employees
2. Do you offer STD (not that kind you dirty thinkers, short term disability)?
No.
3. Did you continue to pay her salary during fml (either salary continuation or std)?
Her first 5 days of absence was paid with PTO (Vacation/Sick leave) as stated in our employee handbook. After that, she collected state disability insurance.
4. Do you have all the paperwork declaring her leave as fml?
YES
5. Did you document her poor performance (it's not too late to document everything and collect performance statements from others)?
NO.
6. What does her performance review AND salary increase history look like (saying she is an poor performer, but then having a positive or neutral performance appraisal or merit increases detract from your credibility)?
She has not had any performance reviews as she's only worked here a little over a year. I believe her first formal annual review would be this month. I'm not 100% certain of that and will have to check her personnel file.
Even in the communist state of California you can be successful, but you have to have your act and documents together.

I have answered your questions in bold.

LeeH 01-13-2016 10:54 AM

Would have been nice to have sent a PI to watch her a couple of weeks ago. I'm betting it would have been easy enough to catch her in a situation other than bed rest.

As others have stated, the employee handbooks should be your guide, but be careful about that too. If you start writing her up for every violation, you'd better be doing the same for all the other employees, too. Someone like this who works the system will be quick to file a lawsuit if any of the company's actions presents an opportunity.

stomachmonkey 01-13-2016 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tidybuoy (Post 8956036)

At one point, she got permission to work at our other plant one day a week which was 6 miles from her home vs. the 50 miles to the main corporate office. She later turned in an expense report claiming 100 miles ea for about 8 trips. I questioned this and she immediately printed up the legal docs that state we must pay since she was scheduled to work away from her normal home base. However, the rules are pretty vague. This is an example of maybe not doing anything illegal but definitely unethical. This pretty much turned the owners off as they thought they were doing her a favor by letting her drive 12 miles on Fridays vs the normal 100 miles (round trip).

Wait, so she turned her normal office, the corporate HQ into the remote office?

Oh she's very good.

You better make sure you've got a top notch lawyer, she's not going to make this easy on you.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tidybuoy (Post 8956036)
Her poor performance is not that she is doing everything wrong, it's mostly that she is just not doing anything that is moving the company forward. She's lazy, goes home at 5 on the dot (or earlier). She does not report to me but reports to the owners who are absent 50% of the time.

Forget about that, annoying yes but if her hours are 9-5 you can't ding her for working 9-5. FWIW, the days she left early she'll claim she worked through lunch so put in her time. Wiling to bet your employee handbook does not address a mandatory lunch break or that it can't be used to count towards hours put in for the day.

SoCal911T 01-13-2016 12:12 PM

Just an FYI, posting personal employee info on a public forum is a big no-no. I don't know anything about you but just with info in this post, in less than 60 seconds, I was able to Google your name and the name of your company. I'm sure with the name of your company I could get the name of the employee in question with another 60 second search. I have no dog in this hunt but if there were someone here that had an ax to grind with you...

If I were you, I would ask the mods to remove this thread and as others have said, stick to an attorney for advice. just sayin'...;)

bleucamaro 01-13-2016 12:45 PM

Having not read all the other replies, the solid advice is to talk with your attorney, especially if your attorney specializes in workman's comp defense. If you're interested, a friend of mine is a workman's comp defense atty based in San Jose. Feel free to PM me and I'll get you her contact info.

mreid 01-13-2016 04:12 PM

Terminate her the day after her final fml day. Make sure your policy states pto and fml run concurrently and not sequentially. You don't want to find yourself in a situation where your math was off by five days as the pto was not fml. If you have a severance policy, pay her severance to go and save yourself tine and money. If it doesn't have a "skills mismatch" clause add one. Yours is the classic case that these deadbeats take advantage of. I hope her name is not Lucy. I fired her a couple years ago. It adds real meaning to the recruiting saying, "I'd rather miss hiring five superstars than hire one deadbeat." Sorry man!

bpu699 01-13-2016 05:01 PM

The note from the doc sounds fake...

As a doc myself, I have never heard of anyone getting time off to get bed rest...

Patients come in all the time wanting time off for stress. I tell them I can do up to 3 days, anything further they have to get from a psychiatrist...

Even then, they might give you a week...

You may wish to independently verify the medical excuse. The doc also has to document a reason, a treatment plan, and so on. Just in case it is later questioned by an employer...

If the doc really gave the note, verify the credentials...

Bo

Skillet83 01-13-2016 05:26 PM

Tidy, get wise and get this thread off of here NOW! Seek your legal representation. PP is not the place to seek opinions this far in the game. Would look awfully embarrassing if this went all the way down the line and was discovered you were seeking legal opinions in this matter here. I would treat this matter as if I were holding a ticking bomb, but was not sure what time the timer was set for. Good luck

wdfifteen 01-13-2016 06:49 PM

I don't know. All he has said here is that she is a bad employee. That is a legitimate reason to complain. If he has said he wants to fire her for being female, a minority, or too old I would agree, start back pedaling now.
OTOH no one here can give you anything but moral support. You got the support. Now start deleting.
I'll do my part.


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