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Bob Kontak 02-12-2016 01:04 PM

I looked at the durabond I purchased for $11. It's 20 minute "easy sand" mud. Argh. No harm. Tomorrow to Home Depot/lowes to look for fixall. Need something stronger. I think hardware store just made a mistake.

Several days away from starting to finish drywall. Installing range hood vent, bathroom exhaust fan, new circuits vs sticking with knob and tube and blowing in insulation.

Jack of all trades but on the upside, I'm slow.

cabmandone 02-12-2016 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 8995480)
I looked at the durabond I purchased for $11. It's 20 minute "easy sand" mud. Argh. No harm. Tomorrow to Home Depot/lowes to look for fixall. Need something stronger. I think hardware store just made a mistake.

Several days away from starting to finish drywall. Installing range hood vent, bathroom exhaust fan, new circuits vs sticking with knob and tube and blowing in insulation.

Jack of all trades but on the upside, I'm slow.

Use the durabond, it will do the job. It will setup in 20 minutes, maybe just a bit more and be ready to tape. Post a pic of what you're trying to fill. I haven't seen much that the durabond will not work for. I used it a lot when I was in the manufactured home business. They shipped two or three bags of the stuff with a home. If you want it to be harder, mix it a little more dry. The trouble with doing that is you'll have to work a bit faster with it.

Bob Kontak 02-13-2016 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 8995793)
The trouble with doing that is you'll have to work a bit faster with it.

The job is relatively small. Maybe 10 areas/gaps that need special attention.

Five are fixall/durabond worthy. Three are cut a piece of drywall to fit the screw-up like drcoastline says and a few are stuff some mud laden fiberglass in the crack.

Having a hard time finding durabond. None at Lowes. There is a hardware store in Hartville that should have it.

cabmandone 02-13-2016 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 8996617)
The job is relatively small. Maybe 10 areas/gaps that need special attention.

Five are fixall/durabond worthy. Three are cut a piece of drywall to fit the screw-up like drcoastline says and a few are stuff some mud laden fiberglass in the crack.

Having a hard time finding durabond. None at Lowes. There is a hardware store in Hartville that should have it.

I wouldn't hesitate to use the 20 minute durabond for all of what you're describing. IIRC you said you'r thin coating with 1/4" drywall rather than 1/2". I'd fill the gaps early and then start taping after the patches change color. Lowes has quickset 20 which will essentially be the same as the 20 minute durabond. Or did you mean you're having a hard time finding the fixall product? Again, I'd use the durabond and not think twice about it. The stuff dries hard and the "easy sand" doesn't really sand all that easy. I used it as floor level in my manufactured homes where the two halves came together. A good friend of mine who sold modular homes did the same thing.

gr8fl4porsche 02-13-2016 04:59 PM

On a standard tape job, most non-standard gaps are pre-filled with USG Easy Sand.

Comes in a 5 minute version as well as 20,45 and 90.

Small jobs are pre-filled as necessary , (2) coats 20 min topped with lite weight mud in one day.

Sanded and painted the next morning.

Several fans in the room does wonders for drying mud fast.

Bob Kontak 02-14-2016 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 8996773)
I wouldn't hesitate to use the 20 minute durabond for all of what you're describing. IIRC you said you'r thin coating with 1/4" drywall rather than 1/2". I'd fill the gaps early and then start taping after the patches change color. Lowes has quickset 20 which will essentially be the same as the 20 minute durabond. Or did you mean you're having a hard time finding the fixall product? Again, I'd use the durabond and not think twice about it. The stuff dries hard and the "easy sand" doesn't really sand all that easy. I used it as floor level in my manufactured homes where the two halves came together. A good friend of mine who sold modular homes did the same thing.

I am assuming durabond and fixall are close to the same product. Durabond is better for larger fills then the product pictured below which may be the quickset you mention?

I have yet to find durabond or fixall.

I have the 20 minute pictured below. Is this comparable to the durabond? Side note. I have no computer at the job site and I have burnt up the multi-media allotment on my phone for this month so quick response is tough.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455472811.jpg

Bob Kontak 02-14-2016 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by gr8fl4porsche (Post 8996832)
On a standard tape job, most non-standard gaps are pre-filled with USG Easy Sand.

Comes in a 5 minute version as well as 20,45 and 90.

Small jobs are pre-filled as necessary , (2) coats 20 min topped with lite weight mud in one day.

Sanded and painted the next morning.

Several fans in the room does wonders for drying mud fast.

OK - this is the product I have. Sorry, I responded to cab before reading your post. I think you are both talking about the same thing.

If you guys say it's ok with the easy sand, I am going to hit a couple of gaps today.

cabmandone 02-14-2016 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 8997481)
OK - this is the product I have. Sorry, I responded to cab before reading your post. I think you are both talking about the same thing.

If you guys say it's ok with the easy sand, I am going to hit a couple of gaps today.

I think you'll be fine with what you have. Just mix it a little dryer than the instructions. It will decrease workable time but should fill nicely.

john70t 02-14-2016 05:54 PM

Just remember:
-With any product there will be shrinking and cracking even months later.
-Wood and drywall expands and contracts with heat and moisture.
-Don't apply anything more than 1/4in thick.
-Applying is easier than sanding overhead.
-Make each coat a finish coat.

Bob Kontak 02-15-2016 07:38 AM

Worked like a charm. What I did not know is the powder does not shrink and crack like mud in a 5 gallon bucket if there is any thickness. This is sweet.

Thanks to all again. This will still be work but I am thinking it will be a 3/4 ass, not a half ass job. Maybe 5/8's assed job.

I have seen pros with their meatloaf tins of mud and their practiced oddball swirly hand and wrist movements. Frankly, half assed for me would be a compliment. Let's not even discuss the efficiency factor.

Suppose I could quit typing and get to it......


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