1992 Yamaha TZR-250 RARE!!!! - $12000 (Sonoma, CA)

Don Ro · 02-12-2016, 08:17 AM

1992 Yamaha TZR-250 RARE!!!!!!!
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>>> What makes this so "rare"? Limited production? It's street legal. <<<
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1992 TZR-250 3XV-4 with a wet clutch.
The chassis and engine have less than 200 miles on it. I have tons of extras and spare OEM parts. Also front and rear stands.
I have over $17,000.00 invested in this bike.
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Ferraripete · Ferraripete's Garage

always enjoyed the "exotic" to the US market two strokers. fun stuff!

get some ed Toomey goodies on that one and she will roll a bit better

porsche4life · porsche4life's Garage

I can hear motion scrambling to buy that all the way from here!

wayner · 02-12-2016, 08:49 AM

Street bike.

I believe they actually used the same bottom end as the tz250 GP bike, but a softer top end and lower level components such as forks etc.

If the TZ250 was the gp bike, and the rz350 was a race replica for the street, the tzr250 was the real deal in a streetable form.

Many tzr250s were actually converted to the race bike top ends as a less expensive way to enter the 250gp class at the club level.

Ferraripete · Ferraripete's Garage

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Originally Posted by wayner

Street bike.

I believe they actually used the same bottom end as the tz250 GP bike, but a softer top end and lower level components such as forks etc.

If the TZ250 was the gp bike, and the rz350 was a race replica for the street, the tzr250 was the real deal in a streetable form.

Many tzr250s were actually converted to the race bike top ends as a less expensive way to enter the 250gp class at the club level.

don't confuse the tame street version with a race version. the race bikes were fun and known to power wheelie @ 100 mph when they came on the pipe. greg esser use to tell me about the good times

motion · 02-12-2016, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life

I can hear motion scrambling to buy that all the way from here!

I already have one

Not mine, but identical:

I bought mine a year ago for $7500. Its an RS, which is much, much rarer than this one. Mine has a dry clutch. I was ridiculed by the guys in the UK for overpaying, but I think I did OK on it.

This guy is asking so much because he has $4K-$5K into the engine. Its really probably a $8K bike at most. Not sure of the title and license details, which would affect the price.

As wayne says, these things are really sweet!

porsche4life · porsche4life's Garage

Haha. Should have known you had one already...

herr_oberst · 02-12-2016, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life

Haha. Should have known you had one already...

Only one?

Don Ro · 02-12-2016, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst

Only one?

What I was thinking.

Don Ro · 02-12-2016, 09:19 AM

What makes this so "rare"? Limited production?

motion · 02-12-2016, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst

Only one?

Well, I do have 5, but only one is street legal.

motion · 02-12-2016, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Ro

What makes this so "rare"? Limited production?

There are lots in the UK. Its a gray market bike for the USA. As Wayne mentioned, most people who got their hands on them chopped them up into race bikes.

herr_oberst · 02-12-2016, 09:24 AM

Between you and Byron my desire to collect is fulfilled vicariously!

motion · 02-12-2016, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wayner

Many tzr250s were actually converted to the race bike top ends as a less expensive way to enter the 250gp class at the club level.

And now that I think and remember... when I used to race my Aprilia RS250 with AFM, there were several guys on extremely fast TZR250s. I had no hope of keeping up with them. They were technically legal for the class, 2 Stroke Production, but were loaded to the gills with TZ250 parts. So, I was making 58HP and they were at around 75-80.

motion · 02-12-2016, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst

Between you and Byron my desire to collect is fulfilled vicariously!

I do my best!

motion · 02-12-2016, 09:55 AM

Me on the podium at Sears Point in 2006 with 2 TZR250s (they beat me). Ahhhhh, memories.

motion · 02-12-2016, 10:54 AM

I'm still in my stroll down memory lane and becoming sentimental today about the demise of two strokes at the world level. I talked to Rich Oliver about a month ago (look him up if you don't know who he is) about buying his world-dominating personal TZ250. The price was too high for me, unfortunately.

I just dug up this old article about Rich and his bike. He does a great job explaining the beauty of the 2-T GP engine.

Soup :: Two-Strokes Of Genius: Lamenting The Extinction Of Stinkwheels :: 12-19-2011

Imagine what its like to pull the pin on a 220 lb machine making 100HP!

Schumi · 02-12-2016, 11:06 AM

If I still lived up in Fremont and had a garage I'd already be on my way to pick this thing up right now.

I love it.

wayner · 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferraripete

don't confuse the tame street version with a race version. the race bikes were fun and known to power wheelie @ 100 mph when they came on the pipe. greg esser use to tell me about the good times

No confusion Pete.

Miguel Duhamel held (and maybe still holds)the outright track record up here at shannonville on a tz250 (the real deal, not the TZR that shared its case).

Thats a pretty interesting fact given that not only had super bikes come into their own by that point in time, but also that Kenny Roberts sent Rich Oliver and the boys up here with a pair of YZR500s one weekend in one class, and his son under the supervision of Wayne Rainey's father, ran his TZ250 in our GP class. Thats the real deal tz250 though, yet Miguel holds the track record.

As for the TZR, aside from having raced against TZRs in a production class, why do I know about how closely related to the real TZ the TZR was? Well, because one of the guys got disqualified when it was rumoured that he was running a TZ motor in his TZR. Upon inspection the officials ran the numbers and agreed that he was running a TZ GP motor. It took a while to sot out but eventually a Yamaha rep set them straight and said both bikes had the same cases. (Not top end, but same cases. The street bike ran a GP bike case, not the other way around).

So much useless information in my head. Eventually it will all be gone and I can be happy

Don Ro · 02-12-2016, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Schumi

If I still lived up in Fremont and had a garage I'd already be on my way to pick this thing up right now.

I love it.

If I still lived in Menlo Park I'd go look at it also.
We could ride together and play down his price...then fight over it.