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M.D. Holloway 03-19-2016 07:51 PM

best advice to any young person that will listen...do what others hate...learn math, public speaking, and how to write.

sugarwood 03-20-2016 05:12 AM

That program in the video most likely only works on the most specific and contrived examples. The product itself has no market viability whatsoever. In other words, it's not a real program, but just a proof of concept designed to showcase his skills. Think of it as a resume line item designed to get him another job.

stomachmonkey 03-20-2016 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 9045009)
That program in the video most likely only works on the most specific and contrived examples. The product itself has no market viability whatsoever. In other words, it's not a real program, but just a proof of concept designed to showcase his skills. Think of it as a resume line item designed to get him another job.

Actually no.

It's a real app fully downloadable.

Have a friend in CA who had to homeschool her daughter for a couple of years who has been using it and says it works great.

Probably a bit more to it but at it's core it's likely OCR that replaces manually keyed entries.

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sugarwood 03-20-2016 08:25 AM

^^ Point the app at a calculus problem and report back. It only supports the most trivial operations capping off at the most basic of Algebra.
It also can not solve a word problem. In other words, don't sell your calculator if you plan to go past 8th grade.

https://photomath.net/en/examples

stomachmonkey 03-20-2016 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 9045211)
^^ Point the app at a calculus problem and report back. It only supports the most trivial operations capping off at the most basic of Algebra.
It also can not solve a word problem. In other words, don't sell your calculator if you plan to go past 8th grade.

https://photomath.net/en/examples

A calculator can't solve a word problem either.

Are you still using one of these?

Why not?

They were the standard for a couple thousand years.

http://www.thecalculatorsite.com/ima...tor/abacus.jpg

flatbutt 03-20-2016 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 9043717)
RPN or nothing! Luddites rule!

RPN backed up by a slide rule! Remember the engineers at mission control sent nearly all missions up using slide rules to check their calculations.

sugarwood 03-20-2016 10:14 AM

What part of "it only does the most basic math operations" do you not understand? Do you have the faintest clue at what a modern $100 graphing calculator is capable of? About 1000x more things than this little gimmick for kids.

creaturecat 03-20-2016 10:38 AM

longhand will look cryptic to the youngsters in about 10 years time.

Hawkeye's-911T 03-20-2016 10:47 AM

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RPN or nothing!
I still use my HP 11C. Someone else pointed this out on a previous thread re: RPN logic. Once folks saw what you were using, they wouldn't ask to borrow your calculator.
Also, MD's thought carries a ton of credence - in my opinion.

Cheers
JB

Mark Henry 03-20-2016 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 9045286)
A calculator can't solve a word problem either.

Are you still using one of these?

Why not?

They were the standard for a couple thousand years.

http://www.thecalculatorsite.com/ima...tor/abacus.jpg

I have 3 japanese abacus, (that one is chinese) they actually are very fast, but you have to know you times tables (1-10) to multiply/divide. My boy is fast on it, japanese students can see the abacus in their mind.

Best one for me is still the girl at HD that needed a calculator to figure out the linear feet for 14, ten foot pieces of baseboard.
http://lowres-picturecabinet.com.s3-.../22/101504.jpg

stomachmonkey 03-20-2016 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 9045387)
What part of "it only does the most basic math operations" do you not understand? Do you have the faintest clue at what a modern $100 graphing calculator is capable of? About 1000x more things than this little gimmick for kids.

You probably had a similar reaction to the first consumer calculator.

It does require a bit of understanding of technology and how rapidly it advances to appreciate the potential and disruptive nature of this app.

Take care.

vash 03-21-2016 08:07 AM

The calculator is dead.
 
I'm not super great at math.

I own three of these. Bought a few used ones to backup my old college unit (primary) when I had to send it in for repairs. I was lucky there is a guy collecting old ones for parts and had the skills to do the fix. He had to change out my keyboard. If it was not repairable, he offered to buy it for more parts. Iimmediately bought two more. $50 each. One is brand new looking.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...38e929844a.jpg

That app looks pretty cool. If you understand the concept, I don't mind the tool to get you the end results.


Sent via Jedi mind trick.

dw1 03-21-2016 01:44 PM

I just like the slide rule app on my iPhone.....

Bob Kontak 03-21-2016 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Henry (Post 9045452)
Best one for me is still the girl at HD that needed a calculator to figure out the linear feet for 14, ten foot pieces of baseboard.

14 pieces of straight baseboard at Home Depot? This story is fiction.

flipper35 03-22-2016 09:29 AM

I doubt it is fiction. When I did commercial flooring the warehouse manager that was there a short time could not do the simplest math for the jobs we went to. I doubt she could have told you how much to cut off the next roll when the first ran out at 100 feet and you needed 150 feet.

Mark Henry 03-22-2016 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 9047037)
14 pieces of straight baseboard at Home Depot? This story is fiction.

Excuse me?
Pretty sure it was MDF baseboard, I'll admit it could have been crown mold or trim, but what's your point other than being a dick?
:rolleyes:

gordner 03-22-2016 10:14 AM

i think he was makign a joke there fellas.....

vash 03-22-2016 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gordner (Post 9048302)
i think he was makign a joke there fellas.....


Agreed. He was jesting about HD quality.




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Mark Henry 03-22-2016 11:03 AM

Ho kay then.... humor ar-ar....

sammyg2 03-22-2016 11:41 AM

Last week I spent 4 really long days studying for the ISO level III vibration analysis certification.
On Friday I took the test, all I was allowed to have was a pen/pencil and my cheepo sharp scientific calcumalator.

Long story longer: I passed the test because I knew the math. If I had gotten used to a crutch to do it for me the results would not have been as good.


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