Originally Posted by JD159 (Post 9123172)

Oh brother...

Please don't parf up a decent thread.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by JD159 (Post 9123233)

I'm sorry. I haven't stepped far enough beyond the doors of perception, even after 4 years of studying philosophy, to know what you are saying. :D

Over the past 40 years. Societies change. Politics change. Bad things happen. Good things happen. Bad people are elected. Bad people are re-elected. Good people are elected. We went over this. Even if western civilization collapses, it will suck for us, but eventually, things will get better, if history repeats itself, as you always remind us.

I've got a question for the brain trust. I see this topic come up a lot here. I come from a non-military family.

Why is it that some people always bring up how the new generation of youth and young adult, don't know suffering, don't know fear, have never fought in a war, weren't shipped off to vietnam when they were 18 etc etc etc. As if it is a bad thing. As if they can never be responsibility or develop character, without these things. You catch my drift.

I have everything to thank to the people who gave me my freedom. The fact that I can sleep in on Sunday. Play videogames when I choose. Everything I am privy to is because a number of decades ago, millions of people fought and died for my freedom. They fought so that I can sleep in on Sunday. So that I don't have to go through what they went through. It was their gift to future generations.

Why is it that it is often brought up in a negative tone? As in, those millennials and younger are spoiled. They have never had to go through these things. They don't have the character. They don't have the responsibility. They didn't grow up as fast and as hard as we did. They have no idea what it is like etc etc.

Some people are grateful. Some people are not. But isn't it hypocritical to fight for something, hoping nobody would have to fight for it again and endure, and then criticize those who have not? Criticize their lack of character and responsibility? I see it a lot on this board. Just confusing.

Originally Posted by Tilikum Turbo (Post 9122722)

I look at my own older sister who's kids were raised with no real consequences to screw-ups, have a gross sense of entitlement, NEED to be praised everyday for mediocrity, and have all the confidence in the world(no doubt psycho-tropically drug induced), yet have the actual ability to do very little.

Then I realize that this is not unlike mainstream America...how did we raise such dysfunctional person(s)?

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 9123409)

I just left my son's graduation from VMI.

We are fine.

Originally Posted by osidak (Post 9123500)

I just had an employee give his notice - he is about 24 y/o

I asked him why? His reply - More pay less hours. So I probed a little more - He said he was going to make about $1.50 more an hour... So he is taking a pay cut when you count overtime (he won't be getting any now). I probed a little further. He said he saw no room for growth because he didn't see me leaving anytime soon. I had been offering to pay for certifications that would help him move up in our world... he never took me up on those offers.

He doesn't have the skill set to do half of what I do and yet he thinks he should moving into my job in the near future.

I wished him luck on his new job.

Interviewing to replace him I see much of the same attitude in the same age range. They don't seem to feel the need to work up the ladder - they think they are owed the position they want.

Originally Posted by Otter74 (Post 9123138)

This suggests that perhaps you do not know as much as you think you do about the various political systems :) Either what European social democracy is about (since Bernie is roughly a standard-issue norther European social democrat in terms of his policy positions), or about Venezuela's political system, or maybe both. I am no expert on the former, but I am pretty well-informed on the latter. If you're curious, I'd be happy to have a private conversation about it (I think it would be a bit off-topic here.)

Originally Posted by Moses (Post 9123400)

I think we've developed a bimodal Gen Y. There are hard working young kids who's efforts and achievements are inspirational. But for every one of them there are a dozen couch surfing, bong hitting slackers.

I think the top 10% of today's youth work harder for what they get than the top 10% of my generation did.

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 9123714)

Perhaps the bong hitting slackers see the bk hypocrisy of their elders in striving for more stuff in a materialistic society. How much inner peace do you have surrounded by stuff while working on your third marriage?