I've decided that I dont want to live in the north anymore .
 

Been thinking a lot. Life is short, gotta embrace every bit of it you can get .
I am a guy on the move, I like to do things, I like to work outside, I like to drive nice cars, I like to work on my home, my yard, I like to ride bikes, I like to camp and hike. I like the way I feel when it is nice outside .
Living here in pa, we really only get 4-5 decent months of weather. the rest of the year, is basically spent indoors , trying to survive winter . It is cold , wet rainy and dismal. I don't want to spend the rest of my life sitting on the couch looking out the window for 8 months every year, waiting for the sun to come out, then having to cram a years worth of projects , and activities all into a 4 month span .
I like North Carolina ,and Virginia , I would consider Tennessee also . I like the mountains, Any other good temperate places for a life long northerner to consider ? I cant do Florida, just to damn hot .. I would still end up inside looking out for part of the year . The deep south is not really a good fit for us either .

Greenville, SC for the win. Mountains, lakes, lots of Northerners.

Not TX.

This year has not been terrible yet, just waiting for the other shoe to drop, but normally we spend months inside trying to avoid spontaneously combusting.

Barring a happy medium I'll take your cold.

We thought about Greenville, we went there and spent a few days looking at homes. I loved the place, great town and art. My wife didn't like the bugs, the rain, the cold. We are still in SoCal. No bugs, no rain, not cold.

I think you mean yankees. THey have a lot of fire ants and humidity in Florida and Texas.

Tennesse is pretty darn nice, nice roads too

TN has no state income tax on earnings.

Ssshhh bout Virginia


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There is a reason for 30,000,000 people in California....and it is the temperate climate. You essentially get 12 months out of 12 months of outdoor living. You get 100 days of 90* to 105* (2 weeks of 100+), and the cold...ahhh what is that....

In LV U get 4 months of heat...95* to 115* (about 2 to 3 weeks of 110+)...and 3 months of 50* to 65*... I would say crisp and not butt freezing cold. The cold is nice but the heat is tough..cause you open the door at midnight and it is still 95*..just think of opening a hot oven door and the blast of heat that hits you in the face. then I shut the door and do not go outside till September.

Northern AZ because of the elevation has a similar summer time climate to CA, but the winters are colder.

Ohh yeah there are 30,000,000 reasons to object to living in CA... it is a fking anthill...the politics and illegals also suck. Now for some of you who don't know any better..you may think it is paradise...HA HA HA ...it was paradise before the early 1980's. I remember when Crown Valley Parkway in Laguna Nigel was nothing but rolling hills with a few cows grazing away in the sunshine...now it has a stop light every 1/2 mile...

But then again people who grew up in CA before and during WW2 say CA was ruined after the war...toooo many people came.

Agree. Weather here is not for the faint of heart. Heat Index to be 105-110 by the end of the week and we are expecting a Biblical plague of mosquitoes after all the flooding we've had...

I made that same decision 25 years ago. Have lived in Greenville, SC and loved it...a very good choice as long as you don't need to have frequent access to a major airport. We're in Atlanta now for that reason. Also consider North Carolina. Ocean on one coast, mountains on the other with excellent access to each.

Nothing is combusting here. SmileWavy

I found a NOAA map showing we've received 40-45 inches of rain in the past 120 days. Areas west of the Woodlands have had 50-55 inches of rain.

Being a westerner I'm biased.... but .... the southwest - New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, etc for an inland / desert environment. California (where I'm from) if you can afford it.

Fred.

Trust me. Eastern Washington State. I have never met better people in my life and the scenery is goofy good.

I have an office in Yakima and Wenatchee. Come see us.

New Mexico has some beautiful mountains and weather.

There are lots of nice places to live in the U.S., all have some trade-off. You just need to decide what matters and what you can live without. I agree w Paul about WA. state, (in fact I wish he'd stop promoting it ;)), but the trade-off of living in a rural area is being hundreds of miles from a major airport or world class medical services, sometimes. We deal w this w my parents, who are in rural WI. or rural NM, depending on time of year.

This would be worse than Minnesota in the winter to me. And MN. in the winter is brutal. :(

Life is all about looking forward to summer, even in SoCal, IMO. A place like Arizona or Fla. is my definition of hell.

why only live in one place ?

when I was a kid we summered in Michigan
and went south before the snows to s fla

You and me both - I have family here and I've only been here since 2009 but I'm already done with it. Getting ready to sell the house, looking at new job / career options, etc. It's a bit of a mess to untangle but I've decided I just can't deal with the winters or the attitudes here. I expect to be gone within a year. Too on my list are Hilton Head, SC, eastern coastal FL (Daytona south to Miami - I used to live down that way years ago too so I'm familiar with it), TX, AZ (Flagstaff possibly), HI and a few international spots. Life is too short to deal with cold - like you I'm an outdoor type and as the saying goes, "ya don't have to shovel sunshine". I won't go back to CA - it's got good points but BTDT- it's a mess too.

My wife and I are planning to retire in the next 5 years or so. it's a shame, both of us are Ca. natives. But after we retire we won't be able to afford to live here. We are looking into the area around Athens Ga. Anyone know much about the area?

Your humidity is higher, raises the flash point. :cool:

Raining here again right now.

Have run the sprinklers once this year yet somehow my water use last month is double compared to April.

Same thing last year, no one around here watered lawns because it rained non stop for two months but our water bills were all high.

Me thinks there be shenanigans afoot.