Anyone know Citroens?

speeder · speeder's Garage

I have a friend who wants to buy a good example DS21 in the U.S., research has already started but I thought I'd take a stab in the dark and see if anyone here has knowledge?

TRE Cup · TRE Cup's Garage

Talk to Tina's boyfriend / husband that runs autobooks in burbank. he owns several and i think he had a citroen repair shop back in the 60-70s

speeder · speeder's Garage

Thanks, Dave!

JJ 911SC · JJ 911SC's Garage

DS21, their best version.

speeder · speeder's Garage

Actually, the DS23 is the best version, but rare in the U.S.

Zeke · 08-28-2013, 02:33 PM

I think the SM was the best version although somewhat plagued with troubles. I lusted after one of those and let that lust slip by when I could have bought one for a few thousand.

mossguy · 08-28-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

I think the SM was the best version although somewhat plagued with troubles. I lusted after one of those and let that lust slip by when I could have bought one for a few thousand.

Wasn't that the Maserati-Citroen?

Zeke · 08-28-2013, 02:38 PM

Yes.

Rodsrsr · Rodsrsr's Garage

If I remember correctly the DS had a very complicated hydraulic self leveling system. The SM is a better looking car though.

Zeke · 08-28-2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodsrsr

If I remember correctly the DS had a very complicated hydraulic self leveling system. The SM is a better looking car though.

The DS had so many hydraulic systems you wondered why the wheels weren't driven by hydraulic.

Brillo · Brillo's Garage

SM = Super Maserati

Esel Mann · 08-28-2013, 05:26 PM

Brillo, so what are you trying to say?

911 SC = 911 (S)uper (C)itroen?????

Nostril Cheese · 08-28-2013, 05:39 PM

Always thought this was a neat feature..

speeder · speeder's Garage

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Originally Posted by Rodsrsr

If I remember correctly the DS had a very complicated hydraulic self leveling system. The SM is a better looking car though.

Their hydraulic suspension was considered an engineering masterpiece, many other automakers tried to copy it with varying success, including Mercedes-Benz.

speeder · speeder's Garage

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Originally Posted by mossguy

Wasn't that the Maserati-Citroen?

I believe that it was called a Citroen-Maserati at the time, subtle distinction.

My dad came very close to buying a new one in 1973, as impractical as he knew it would be, it was just too unbelievably cool not to want. He bought a new V-12 Jag XKE instead, so it really would not have been any worse.

Here is a picture I took a couple weeks ago when my friend stopped in the street to say hi in his '73 Citroen SM:

Steve Carlton · 08-28-2013, 07:59 PM

porwolf · 08-28-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder

Their hydraulic suspension was considered an engineering masterpiece, many other automakers tried to copy it with varying success, including Mercedes-Benz.

I thought the Citroen automatic leveling system was pneumatic?

porwolf · 08-28-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by porwolf

I thought the Citroen automatic leveling system was pneumatic?

Actually we are both right. The Citroen supension was a "hydropneumatic" one:

Hydropneumatic suspension - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

petrolhead611 · 08-29-2013, 03:25 AM

The DS was known as the Plumbers Nightmare when they were current cars in the UK. The ID versions had far less plumbing.

sc_rufctr · 08-29-2013, 03:39 AM

DS21's are great cars but are getting really old now. What year is your friend looking at?

The Fuel consumption will surprise you. Great drive and ride but "different" in so many ways to any other car. Not a lot of power from memory. I drove one for about 6 weeks when I was in Europe in the late 90s. A borrowed car and it was old then. (1974 model) I've always liked them but never lust.

So yes nice classic car but all of them are OLD... Ask you friend if he really wants one. I'd pass unless it was near perfect.