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LeeH 08-07-2016 06:38 PM

Tailgating gone wrong
 
Great driver's ed video to show your kids...

Video captures rollover crash caused by tailgating - azfamily.com 3TV | Phoenix Breaking News, Weather, Sport

widebody911 08-07-2016 06:50 PM

That exact scenario happened to an ex-girlfriend of mine: she was following too closely and hit a mattress. In her case, she didn't swerve and roll, but destroyed the front of her car (Miata) hitting the mattress.

widebody911 08-07-2016 06:51 PM

Link without the news-site-spam

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/adbz23kynfs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

LakeCleElum 08-07-2016 08:40 PM

Guy in front should have done a BRAKE CHECK long B4 this happened.........

LeeH 08-07-2016 08:54 PM

Here's the long version. This was a case where there is a long increase in grade. As the 18 wheelers reach the crest and start downhill, they pick up speed. Woman in the car needs a trip to Bondurant... once she's out of the hospital.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/AJjNH6WAo7w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

sc_rufctr 08-07-2016 10:29 PM

Young driver... Dumb move. I hope she at least learns from this.

Holger 08-07-2016 11:30 PM

Beautiful how the car in front just moves a LITTLE bit to avoid the mattress, knowing the car behind would see it to late. Well played, sir!

Jose_JGC 08-08-2016 01:56 AM

I hope that none was seriously injured in this accident.
For sure, with such a lesson this lady will be a better driver.
I do not know how driving schools are today, but I believe that students should watch a large collection of these movies to get some experience out of them.
JC

dad911 08-08-2016 07:58 AM

I'd love to know the distance between the striped line to figure out how fast they were going. Also, video was edited (around 0:26 the scenery changes) so this was going on much longer.

She should lose her license for a while.

TimT 08-08-2016 08:24 AM

Typically the white dashed lines are 10' with 30' spacing

bivenator 08-08-2016 08:46 AM

Should the truck have moved out of the left hand lane? If it had been going on for some time it looks like the pickup was pacing the semi.

Seahawk 08-08-2016 09:16 AM

I hope the mattress is ok.

bivenator 08-08-2016 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NotaBRG (Post 9232267)
The video starts at 00:44:19 and the swerve happens at 00:45:08.
The whole thing is over in less than a minute.

I see that now, thanks.


They should have put some orange mesh around that mattress. That would have kept her safe.

968rz 08-08-2016 09:32 AM

it goes from 44.37 to 44.59 when it changes

T77911S 08-08-2016 09:39 AM

the truck driver was kind of an a$$.
you see him catching the semi then "hovering" next to. cant tell how long but the scenery changes enough that it looks like he was there a while.

then in the vid YOU can the mattress up the road so you know he saw it, then he only moves just enough for him to get around.
not saying she was not to blame too.

Baz 08-08-2016 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 9232259)
I hope the mattress is ok.

Ha...that's what I was thinking....:D

911 Rod 08-08-2016 12:34 PM

The part that amazes me is that the camera car just held his speed and watched the show!

I'd have been on the brakes and had my car stopped before the accident.

Gogar 08-08-2016 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 9232596)
The part that amazes me is that the camera car just held his speed and watched the show!

I'd have been on the brakes and had my car stopped before the accident.

Seems to me that the 'camera car' is likely a Semi Truck, considering the height of the video. i bet he stopped as fast as he could!

Amail 08-08-2016 01:43 PM

Pickup driver bears some responsibility for this, but it's mostly down to the idiot in the car. I'm sure the pickup dropped the hammer when he saw all the action behind him!

That was a mega yard sale she spewed. How do people let their cars get so full of crap?

Otter74 08-08-2016 02:59 PM

The pickup driver may (or may not - I don't think the video gives enough information to tell) have been driving like a jerk, but he is not responsible for the Saturn driver's crash. She was not allowing enough room between herself and the truck to safely react to surprises, and doesn't appear to have had the skill to do so under the circumstances either. Whether or not the pickup driver was blocking her, if she had been following at a safe distance she would have had the time and space to avoid the mattress.

wdfifteen 08-08-2016 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 9232596)
The part that amazes me is that the camera car just held his speed and watched the show!

I'd have been on the brakes and had my car stopped before the accident.

Maybe. Have you ever been in that situation?
I watched an HHR roll multiple times right in front of me on I-74. I watched a body get launched 30-40 feet in the air out of the car. My instinct was to lock the brakes, but somehow I still drove over some of the debris and only stopped about 50 feet from the car once it stopped rolling. It happened so fast I had to sit there and think, "Did that just happen?" before I got out an started to look for the body that went flying.
I don't fault the truck driver. The view from the camera is NOT the whole view he was seeing. He had mirrors and ability to pan (look side to side). Who knows what else was going on.

Por_sha911 08-08-2016 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amail (Post 9232697)
Pickup driver bears some responsibility for this, but it's mostly down to the idiot in the car.

I disagree. The pickup may have been a jerk for blocking the left lane but tailgater has no one to blame but themselves. As I stated in another thread, the person with the most to lose has the greatest responsibility to take care of themselves. Anything less is a victim mentality.
The problem with society today is that so few people want to be accountable for their actions.

Amail 08-08-2016 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 9232874)
I disagree. The pickup may have been a jerk for blocking the left lane but tailgater has no one to blame but themselves. As I stated in another thread, the person with the most to lose has the greatest responsibility to take care of themselves. Anything less is a victim mentality.
The problem with society today is that so few people want to be accountable for their actions.

He bears the greatest responsibility, agreed. Entire responsibility, almost but not quite. If it were me purposely blocking that lane to "teach the tailgater a lesson" and that happened, I'd feel like crap knowing I could have just moved on and left the lane clear.

masraum 08-08-2016 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amail (Post 9232885)
He bears the greatest responsibility, agreed. Entire responsibility, almost but not quite. If it were me purposely blocking that lane to "teach the tailgater a lesson" and that happened, I'd feel like crap knowing I could have just moved on and left the lane clear.

True, I would feel horrible. At the same time, I don't think the pickup shares any responsibility. Don't tailgate. If you do an something happens, you only have yourself to blame.

On an only vaguely related note, after the video, one of the other videos suggested was called "Deadly Accidents, Worst Pedestrian Accidents Compilation / AVTO-CRASH CHANNEL". Wow! I didn't expect a video that felt like an old faces of death video on youtube. I watched a little bit of the video. Fortunately, all of the footage that I saw was very poor quality which is what allowed me to watch as much as I did (no visible blood or anything that I saw). Just wow, many/most (not all) of the accidents were completely due to pedestrians being somewhere that they clearly shouldn't have been and/or not paying attention. Some of the videos definitely seemed like a huge miss on the part of the vehicle operator.

bivenator 08-08-2016 06:39 PM

masraum, I watched some of that too. Jeebus that was awful. I made it about a minute and had to shut it down after the trash truck mowed that first person.

rusnak 08-08-2016 06:45 PM

The music alone is enough to cause a wreck.

masraum 08-09-2016 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bivenator (Post 9233111)
masraum, I watched some of that too. Jeebus that was awful. I made it about a minute and had to shut it down after the trash truck mowed that first person.

I eventually went back and watched more. Later on, someone crawls between 2 axles of a semi trailer while it's stationary. It then starts and drags them a bit. It's pretty gruesome.

masraum 08-09-2016 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 9233116)
The music alone is enough to cause a wreck.

I pretty much always watch that sort of video with the audio muted because it's always horrible music or people making ridiculous statements.


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