Are you getting any action on it, Hugh? Lots of guys w strange accents and BS stories along w lowball offers? Just curious. :cool:

When I was shopping accordion cars, I always thought grey market cars were less, unless they had some neat bare bones features. Partly because of the federalization process (mileage reset when they get a new odometer etc.) and also the smog. Is that not the case anymore? Have they become more hip? Does Magnus Walker buy them? :)

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Back to the OP car, what I do is take the "old value" of the car, (also known as the real value), and then triple it for impact bumper cars or multiply by 5 for early 911Ts, maybe 6 or 7 for 911Es and 10 for 911S cars.

These are approximate but take the value of your car before 911s got "discovered" by the new fans, (say $5k in your case), and triple = $15k. A really good early 911S used to be $20k, now they are $200k, (all prices approximate and fluctuate w the currency being laundered).

A good SC used to be $12k, now it's $36(?) You get the picture....

And a 4-speed mid-year targa w bad paint was a $5k car forever. :)

Denis - I will bet you 10K I can sell that car in a year for 30K - wanna take that?

Not sure how that bet would work but not interested. If you can sell it for $30k, more power to you. I don't see it though; another member here sold a much better one for around $12 or 13k about a year ago, maybe he'll chime in.

I think that the inflated market for old 911 cars that were not desirable in the first place is going to end soon. A good 911S or other good model in great shape will always bring big $$. :cool:

How are you going to sell it?

Don't forget, you can always lower your price...

Denis, you have proven my point to my Son when I tell him that most folks in the world could really care less about what you have or done and many times will be pissed or at least dismissive when you do something well or have something they don't have. That many folks are negative and will find fault in any idea you put forth. They will mask it with some BS statement on how they are only being honest or that they know more than you do.

I tell him to ignore them because while they will try to convince you that they are either smarter than you are in some why better by way of accomplishments or that they have more of something like money, houses, cars, etc... The truth is that these people are nothing to consider and amount to nothing. They are not accomplished or really matter. They are small.

I ask him to consider his uncles and grandfathers and ask himself this question 'do they act like that?' They don't because these men matter. They are true men.

I look at a bunch of the men on this board and they are true men, those that matter and are meaningful are not of negative mind or dismissive. They are considerate and a class act.

I guess we both can learn from these men huh Denis? I know I have a long way to go.

I think the $20K that a lot of folks here have suggested is closer than your suggested $45K. As far as the $30K...I would not sell my '74 for that...and it is far from stock, but I would be surprised if it sold for more...even with perfect paint, sport seats, Carrera oil cooler, 7 inch fuchs, etc. The hot rod, Supertec-built 3.0 which is reliable and fast...and pretty pricey would probably just not please a collector (even though it is a great driver)...who would want the pathetic, but original 2.7 I pulled out of it. I would likely do better to find a 2.7 and do a swap...selling the 3.0 elsewhere.

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WTF are you talking about? You started a thread asking for opinions on what your car is worth because you want to sell it. I gave you mine and frankly, went easy on it. It sounds like a serious POS. A 4-speed mid-year targa w a wrap to hide the bad condition? And you want some compliments on it?.

Jesus, man. Your son is going to grow up one confused guy listening to you. You have issues. A little hint is that "real men" don't spend much time pondering what a real man is. That would be hint #1. :rolleyes:

You asked for opinions on your car and take offense when none was intended. You did not "put forth an idea". The cars have gone up drastically in value, which is very fortunate for you. This would not be a desirable car to many buyers but you'll get some $$ out of it.

When I read that first paragraph, I see that something is not right w you. I wish you good luck, I think you're going to need it.

I think the $45k was Mike joking around.

But as long as we are entertaining bets in this thread I'll bet anyone $30k I can sell Mikes car for $40k, in a week.

Any takers?

I'll bet $50k that I can sell it for $60k. :)

Close to the border? Got any contacts? They will perform a miracle in Mexico with your car. They still get good paints and the price is right.

Sad to see a mid-year go but the TT is an amazing piece of kit.

Denis, I am truly sorry I offended you. Your most likely correct. Thanks for your input.

And I'm sorry as well. When I re-read my post, it's a lot stronger than what I intended to convey. I was just very confused by your response to my response. Damn internet.

Do you have photos of the flaws that the wrap is covering?

$35K may be a bit high, but it says or best offer. I think the ROW has some desirability, especially with the people who may want to take it back to Europe. Yes, I've had a few inquiries.

what are prospective buyers saying Hugh?

Your car at $28 to $32 is a much better buy than Mike's 77 at $20.

I've seen the car pre and post wrap.

Pretty much what you'd expect from a DD of that vintage.

Primarily rough paint.

IIRC it has an old respray that has not stood the test of time.

Don't recall any rust issues.

The guys who did the wrap did do some bodywork on areas with imperfections, dings etc... as that stuff shows through the wrap. So there is likely primer in spots under the wrap.

But Mike I'm sure will answer in greater detail.

That about sums it up...

One or two inquiries, but 1,425 "looks" on Pelican alone in about two weeks. My neighbor used to have a bone stock 84 911 Coupe and I drove his and he drove mine once. He and I both agreed that my ROW with the SW chip was WAY faster by any metric, off the line, mid-range, you name it. ALL the rubber, including the accordians on the bumpers are soft.


I'm in no hurry, but I'm also flexible. I love the car, but with weak A/C in southern California I just won't drive it in bumper-to-bumper traffic to work, so its a weekend, take it up Pacific Coast Highway (PCH) to Malibu/Pismo Beach car, and I don't get to do that too often. Top off on a Targa up PCH to Pismo Beach is about as good as it gets.

If I don't sell, no biggie, I plan to leave soCal in a few years and maintain my Condo in Ventura, CA 1/4 mile from the beach. I'll keep it there for the six months/year that I visit. I'll have my Son use the Condo, flush toilets, run dishwashers, etc, and run the Targa around a little.