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Joe Bob 09-04-2016 03:00 PM

How stupid can you be? Rape then snapchat it to the BF....
 
Report: USC football player Snapchatted alleged sexual assault - AOL


Hope the moron fries......

masraum 09-04-2016 03:41 PM

I just don't understand the people that let the little head run the show and think that any means justify the ends. Just because it's always at attention, doesn't mean that it's the general in charge.

Brando 09-04-2016 04:10 PM

What troubles me is the privileged treatment. Why is he not being held WITHOUT BAIL? A warrant has been served, evidence taken. I know it's literally TMZ reporting here but still ... If he guilty why is "USC Investigating" vs the actual police taking over. Plus if it happened across state lines (multiple occurrences) shouldn't this be a federal crime?

So confused... This is the s*** that pisses me off.

flatbutt 09-04-2016 04:19 PM

Stupid? How about evil? Amoral? Entitled doosh nozzle? Sure seems that this happens quite a bit with athletes. I have no regard for any man that abuses women in any way.

tabs 09-04-2016 05:04 PM

Let me clear this up for you. America has lost its ethical and moral compass. America is in fact an amoral and unethical nation. America has sold out its belief in God. Wear it well.

Gogar 09-04-2016 05:44 PM

I agree this is total crap. If we were in Saudi Arabia that woman would've been executed already.

JJ 911SC 09-04-2016 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 9268370)
Let me clear this up for you. America has lost its ethical and moral compass. America is in fact an amoral and unethical nation. America has sold out its belief in God. Wear it well.

You can post here as you won this one... http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/927601-when-do-you-win-argument-pp.html

JD159 09-04-2016 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 9268370)
Let me clear this up for you. America has lost its ethical and moral compass. America is in fact an amoral and unethical nation. America has sold out its belief in God. Wear it well.

Ya. Nobody raped people before Snapchat. College rape is a relatively new thing as well. Didn't happen before.

M.D. Holloway 09-04-2016 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 9268312)
What troubles me is the privileged treatment. Why is he not being held WITHOUT BAIL? A warrant has been served, evidence taken. I know it's literally TMZ reporting here but still ... If he guilty why is "USC Investigating" vs the actual police taking over. Plus if it happened across state lines (multiple occurrences) shouldn't this be a federal crime?

So confused... This is the s*** that pisses me off.

Is it a 'due process cali thing' ?

Cajundaddy 09-04-2016 08:21 PM

The sense of entitlement is strong in these boys. As I understand it, this guy Cosby-raped her before and she is still hanging out partying with him? This trial is going to be ugly.

M.D. Holloway 09-04-2016 08:28 PM

Wow - he went after her twice? That's messed up...

daepp 09-04-2016 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 9268370)
Let me clear this up for you. America has lost its ethical and moral compass. America is in fact an amoral and unethical nation. America has sold out its belief in God. Wear it well.

^This^

There are rules, there are laws. But with no moral compass, why follow the rules? Why obey the law? When man quits worrying about his soul (fairly tale or not), when he quits doing the right thing even when no one's looking, this is what you get.

berettafan 09-05-2016 01:05 AM

Well said tabs and David.

KFC911 09-05-2016 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 9268321)
Stupid? How about evil? Amoral? Entitled doosh nozzle? Sure seems that this happens quite a bit with athletes. I have no regard for any man that abuses women in any way.

Well put...I'd also add children, animals,and even other men to the list too.

"Do unto others...."

With exceptions...because of what I'd do unto these types...:(

jhynesrockmtn 09-05-2016 05:43 AM

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Let me clear this up for you. America has lost its ethical and moral compass. America is in fact an amoral and unethical nation. America has sold out its belief in God. Wear it well.
Let me clear this up for you. College football players have been raping women and being protected by their coaches since the game was invented. I witnessed the protection first hand when I was a resident adviser at a Pac10 school. The coaches were very skilled at working the victim and the police. The difference today is that victims come forward more and technology helps the morons trip themselves up occasionally.

cockerpunk 09-05-2016 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jhynesrockmtn (Post 9268697)
Let me clear this up for you. College football players have been raping women and being protected by their coaches since the game was invented. I witnessed the protection first hand when I was a resident adviser at a Pac10 school. The coaches were very skilled at working the victim and the police. The difference today is that victims come forward more and technology helps the morons trip themselves up occasionally.

yup, let us not confuse the fact that victims come forward more often, with more evidence then they ever could before, with an increasing frequency/severity of the crime. also let us not think that while we believe in justice for all, that has been a goal, not a fact, since our countries founding.

as a whole, sexual assault is down ....

https://www.rainn.org/sites/default/...erage_Stat.svg

that of course does not excuse this prick, he should and hopefully will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, regardless of his position on the football team.

widebody911 09-05-2016 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajundaddy (Post 9268534)
As I understand it, this guy Cosby-raped her before and she is still hanging out partying with him?

I ain't sayin' she's a gold digger...

island911 09-05-2016 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JD159 (Post 9268487)
Quote:

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 9268370)
Let me clear this up for you. America has lost its ethical and moral compass. America is in fact an amoral and unethical nation. America has sold out its belief in God. Wear it well.

Ya. Nobody raped people before Snapchat. College rape is a relatively new thing as well. Didn't happen before.

He is not referencing the rape, he is referencing the response to the rape. --Lawlessness (for chosen celebrities) is the new norm. Ask the Clintons.

biosurfer1 09-06-2016 08:09 AM

Drinking and smoking with the same guy 12 days later?

pwd72s 09-06-2016 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by biosurfer1 (Post 9270069)
Drinking and smoking with the same guy 12 days later?

Does make one wonder....

cockerpunk 09-06-2016 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 9268888)
He is not referencing the rape, he is referencing the response to the rape. --Lawlessness (for chosen celebrities) is the new norm. Ask the Clintons.

this is in no way new either. :rolleyes:

flyenby 09-07-2016 06:09 PM

The Cosby method....

masraum 09-08-2016 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by flyenby (Post 9272425)
The Cosby method....

You've got to have role models....

creaturecat 09-08-2016 08:13 AM

not believing in god is the problem?
haha. too funny.

cairns 09-08-2016 08:32 AM

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not believing in god is the problem?
I don't think you're getting it.

In a moral sense, yes it's a big problem.

In a religious sense no of course not. Buddhists and Confucians don't have gods (I think) you know. Plenty of religions don't. But nearly all have a beneficial moral purpose. And I'm sure the majority or agnostics and athiests have a correctly aligned moral compass. That seems to be lacking in a lot of places lately....and your response to this shows it. Ha-ha indeed.

jhynesrockmtn 09-08-2016 08:45 AM

You can develop a moral compass in people without organized religion or a belief in a higher power. I did it with my kids. They are both independent, smart, care for others, know right from wrong. They learned by watching their parents treat others with respect, having a sense of purpose and right and wrong. It just isn't that difficult but does require consistency, love, attention and discipline. I grew up catholic and saw a lot more wrong than right with that system, its bad actors, the structure that protected them.......in the end a ton of hypocrites telling others how to live a moral life. Too many give that responsibility over to others.

cairns 09-08-2016 02:01 PM

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You can develop a moral compass in people without organized religion or a belief in a higher power.
So true. I was baptized Catholic. My grandmother made me a baptist and we went to Sunday school, regular church services, Sunday night socials, Wednesday night socials and had to endure Summer Bible School. And I got baptized again. My Mom tried to make a Methodist out of me....by then it was too late.

By the time I was 12 or 14 I had had my fill of organized religion.

But I learned right from wrong at an early age from nearly every one of my elders....the religion had nothing to with it.

You didn't hit a girl- no matter what she did- let alone rape someone.

My mom is a Lutheran now. I don't quite understand it but I know enough to respect anyone who has religious convictions. Some people want and need faith. Others need to get over that fact. The denigration of Christianity in our country is a big problem IMO- the lack of respect is palpable and that's what disturbed me about the post.

Live and let live for crying out loud. The only disrespect should be meted to those who obviously didn't know right from wrong. The way Tabs or anyone else worded their post or their faith in a religious or any other "god" as a guiding purpose or force in living a moral life is immaterial. And it sure as kaka isn't something to laugh at.

speeder 09-08-2016 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jhynesrockmtn (Post 9273110)
You can develop a moral compass in people without organized religion or a belief in a higher power. I did it with my kids. They are both independent, smart, care for others, know right from wrong. They learned by watching their parents treat others with respect, having a sense of purpose and right and wrong. It just isn't that difficult but does require consistency, love, attention and discipline. I grew up catholic and saw a lot more wrong than right with that system, its bad actors, the structure that protected them.......in the end a ton of hypocrites telling others how to live a moral life. Too many give that responsibility over to others.

Exactly, it comes down to a person's character or lack thereof. There are good and honest people who are deeply religious and others who are not religious at all. My mom is very influenced by her Catholocism and is an extremely moral person. My dad was basically an atheist, (also raised Catholic, interestingly), and he had a strong sense of right and wrong. A code, if you will, that made it completely out of the question to steal from or cheat someone.

I'm influenced by both and not religious at all but respect other's beliefs and faith, more so when it seems to influence them to be better people. While far from saintly or perfect, I believe that I have a strong moral compass and like to help others when I can and at least not harm them the rest of the time.

Bizarre posts are the norm from Mr. Tabs but this line of thought is bananas, IMO. The notion that human beings are becoming less moral is silly. Cavemen were probably selling each other phony life insurance policies and banging their neighbors' wives. Crime and treachery are as old as the hills. :cool:


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