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Don Ro 09-05-2016 10:53 AM

Engine Turning - Who dunnit?
 
What's your technique?
I've adhered a round piece of leather to a 1/2" dowel and applied valve lapping compound to the rough side of the leather...in my drill press.
I tried using a piece of Scotchbrite but the leather is better...doesn't deteriorate.
I'm finding that the trick is to use a Sharpie to graph the piece of aluminum first.
Been practicing but hard to keep it from looking like a goober job.
Anyone?
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Nice job here:
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1990C4S 09-05-2016 11:00 AM

I've done it with a brass wire wheel. The cone shaped ones. It's easy in a milling machine. You can set X and Y and keep them all the same, and you can set a depth stop.

Don Ro 09-05-2016 11:07 AM

Only drill press here.
I need to practice more, for sure.
Thanks.
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I have a coned Dremel steel brush...I'll experiment.

:)
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PS Any photos of your work?

herr_oberst 09-05-2016 11:47 AM

If I was gonna practice doing engine turning on a drill press, I might take the opportunity to set up a fence

rwest 09-05-2016 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 9269088)
If I was gonna practice doing engine turning on a drill press, I might take the opportunity to set up a fence

...with "t" track on top and multiple flip stops so as you go down each row, they end up in the same place.

Don Ro 09-05-2016 07:32 PM

I downloaded some grids...printed out and am using them.
Just had to figure out 1/3 of a half inch. Somewhere around 1/6".
What I've seen online is that 1/3 of the diameter of the turning tool looks best.
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Here's my practice aluminum piece...my final piece will be on the flip side...it's mirror polished.
Two different diameter turning tools. The 1/2" one is leather glued to a dowel and a hybrid of valve lapping compound and rubbing compound.

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BlueSkyJaunte 09-06-2016 09:35 AM

What you're looking for is a Cratex cylinder. Mount on a mandrel and go to town.

Don Ro 09-06-2016 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte (Post 9270104)
What you're looking for is a Cratex cylinder. Mount on a mandrel and go to town.

I have an old 1/2" Cratex "stick" from working in the avionics world 40 yrs. ago...but it's dry. Tried it and it crumbled too much and I didn't want to spend $22 on a new one...nor having to wait for its delivery.
Took me an hour last night to turn a 2" x 4" aluminum flat. Learned a lesson or two. Next time I'll make a jig so I don't have to be so careful of it not moving on the graph.
Also, the turning is not as pronounced (deep) as I had hoped.
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Finished, so far...need to make some cuts and holes now for the switches and mini meters.
I love being retired...lots of silly but fun projects. :)
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Thanks all. SmileWavy

BlueSkyJaunte 09-06-2016 02:51 PM

The few items I've turned were with circular Scotch-Brite pads in my drill press. I was doing this on chromed steel, so going "too deep" was a concern.

After talking to a few bike builders I learned all about Cratex, but I've never had to turn anything since.

Don Ro 09-06-2016 07:01 PM

Do you remember the diameter of the discs, grit (color), and from where you got them?
The largest diameter I'd want is 1/2"...I could cut down a rectangular pad, I guess.
I have many fresh green pads...but they're a bit too mild.
Thanks.

Don Ro 09-29-2016 07:50 PM

What all the fuss was about re: engine turning on aluminum/brass.
Lascar DC gauge, switch, & Trail Tech Cly. Head Temp gauge on a '14 Royal Enfield Continental GT 535.
Check out that cute little grommet in the upper right corner. ;)
Thanks for the input, gents.
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EMV 1200 | Panel Instruments
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tevake 09-29-2016 08:05 PM

Great job Don. That looks so nice in place. I'm thinking you are going to get many complements on that piece.

Cheers Richard

Cooper911SC 09-29-2016 09:11 PM

I talked to a buddy of mine that works at a shop that restores early American cars. (Think Auburn, Cord, Duesenberg)

He uses a mill with a mandrel, 3/8" hard felt, and lapping compound.
1/3 overlap is typical.

He said Cratex and WD-40 would work good too.

It takes him 2 days to do a Duesey dash... The shop works a 4-10...so that's 20 hours!

Duesey dashes are pretty cool, they are engine turned brass but are coated with a black tinted lacquer. When looking into the car they appear almost black...but if the sun hits them you see the brass turning reflected through.

Cooper

Don Ro 09-29-2016 09:44 PM

Thanks, boys!
I found a 35 yr. old 3/8" Craytex (1 1/2" long) in my instrument tool box & used that with my drill press...after trying a few other ideas. Used a hybrid of rubbing compound & honing oil.
Took me over an hr. to do that little aluminum & almost that to do the brass plate.
I was careful to not touch while I rinsed them with naptha then hot sudsy water to clean them...not to mar/scratch.
I went online and marveled at the engine turning artisans...unreal beauty.
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Need to put down the fun stuff now and get a room painted. :mad:
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