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mreid 09-11-2016 03:02 PM

Just do a google search for Timothy Treadwell. Select "images" if you are brave. Bears are unpredictable.

legion 09-11-2016 04:18 PM

They apparently choke during the second half. That's what I learned about bears today. SmileWavy

mreid 09-11-2016 06:09 PM

Lol

motion 09-12-2016 01:01 AM

I live within 1/2 mile of all kinds of things that can potentially eat me: brown bears, grizzly bears, mountain lions and wolves. We regularly hike on trails near the house that are fairly infested with all of the above. I am scared $hitless of these things! But, I also take solace in knowing that they don't normally eat people. The statistics are on my side, so we go ahead and jump in, armed with bear spray and bells. I wouldn't worry too much about them. Just use common sense.

Outback Porsche 09-12-2016 03:34 AM

Nasty bastards them drop bears

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Por_sha911 09-12-2016 05:45 PM

In case of a bear attack, all you need to be safe is a .22 pistol.

rusnak 09-12-2016 07:21 PM

When I was a kid, my family had a weekend cabin at 7,000 ft. We would hear occasionally of a bear attack, and bear damage to cabins were an annual thing. Our solid 2" door was half way ripped apart by a bear while we were gone. Locals knew not to go out at night without a flashlight and preferably something to make a lot of noise. We were advised to not let the dogs out beyond the range of the cabin flood lights because not only are there bears, but mountain lions too. One of our neighbors came face to face with a bear, and he was looking out his second story window.

A Black bear is every bit as dangerous as a grizzly. They are eating machines and very intelligent. A .22 pistol would not even slow a grown bear down. Best advice is to avoid at all costs, and keep your trash in a very heavy bear proof trash container. Never keep food in the car.

Por_sha911 09-12-2016 07:36 PM

I was waiting for someone to throw me the straight line.

You can't outrun a bear. You shoot your friend in the leg and outrun them...

Cajundaddy 09-12-2016 08:04 PM

We have encountered bears many times in the San Gabriels, the Sierras, and Alaska. Black bear attacks in Calif are extremely rare but in Alaska they are all business when the salmon are running.

All the ideas expressed above are wise: Keep food stored in bear-resistant containers, hike in groups, give bear sightings plenty of room, and carry bells, bear spray and a proper knife.

aigel 09-12-2016 08:22 PM

If that was my cabin in the woods, that bear would be dead. That is dangerously close and a continuous risk to be around. But I assume this is in resort type area. Then I guess you'll have to go to the front desk to complain. At a minimum that sucker needs to get a few rubber bullets in the rear to make it run. Unfortunately, from what I read, once a bear is accustomed to snack on trash, it is not going to break the habit. It is so much tougher to go find food in the wild ... It usually needs to be killed. People that leave out trash or worse, feed the bears, don't understand that they are killing the bears ...

I am an avid black bear hunter. Never have been charged, even in close encounters on the ground. All bears wanted to GTFO away from me ASAP. Also startled a couple on the trail - all ran. I can tell you - they are extremely strong and fast. They climb a tree and descend as fast as a squirrel and I have seen them fight dogs - as a two legged creature, you would not stand a chance - even for a couple seconds if one decided to go for it. That includes any bear, even a sub-adult. They are machines.

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aigel 09-12-2016 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 9275109)

That's the bear? It has a big scar on its back section. Have to wonder where that is from?

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PetrolBlueSC 09-12-2016 08:58 PM

I know that spring black bears are good in lentil soup. Just made a pot this evening. Wife loved it.

aigel 09-12-2016 09:54 PM

Favorite stew meat at my house for sure! But not a trash bear - all mine are acorn eating fall bears ... phenomenal.

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Bill Douglas 09-12-2016 10:31 PM

I grew up on Yogi bear so I love bears.

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look 171 09-12-2016 11:07 PM

When we were in Tahoe some years ago, I saw a black bear jumped off an 8 foot wall (trash can was behind there)about 20 feet right in front of us. All I hear was a click from his nails or claws. I had my two kids with me as we were walking back to our room. Scared the siht out of me because my kids were 1 and 3 years old. That SOB ran, stopped, turned and looked at us as I shine my flash light at it. I wouldn't know what to do if that thing came at us? I would slow it down until my kids run to safety, but the little is only one and where would they go? There was no one around. This was about 8:30pm. I am still shaking thinking about it now. my wife laughing at my ass all night, but I know the real danger and what could happened. She watches too much TV and thinks its a cute stuff animal.

KFC911 09-13-2016 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 9278473)
In case of a bear attack, all you need to be safe is a .22 pistol.

Your math is a bit off imo...

.22 x 2 + mag + luck

Edited...unless your with a honey.

Seriously....this is in the Smokies....black bears were often seen at locations near people even when I was a kid...going through trash cans, etc. Some folks got smarter...others tasted like chicken :).

IROC 09-13-2016 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 9276646)
I would hope they'd cut me a little slack. We'd been here all of 30 minutes after driving 6 1/2 hours to get here. All we were thinking about was, "At last - a week off." All I had to throw at him was a camera and a martini glass. Not sure he would be impressed. There was a small table on the deck but I doubt the owners would appreciate me chucking their furniture off the deck into the ravine.
Thanks for the advice. We cached some sticks of firewood next to the door to chuck at them if they wander through again.

We rent cabins in the Smokies pretty often since they are less than an hour from our house. Bear sightings are common, and bears have gotten somewhat comfortable with people being around, but do not for a minute think they are harmless. I would specially be wary of young ones with a mother around. A black bear will ruin your day.

Also...welcome to East Tennessee!!

wayner 09-13-2016 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 9275111)

How many of you glossed over this without reading it?

A GOOD LAUGH:D

sammyg2 09-13-2016 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 9278744)
Treadwell was an idiot.
It is a purely blunder of nature that he lived as long as he did.
A hippie from calf, that would spend vacation in Alaska harassing the bear population.
Not in a bad way ,but in their midst thinking he could name and talk to them....
The bears were busy .
It worked out of sheer luck because the bear population was harvesting salmon for the long run of winters sleep.
I thought he at least camped out in a large tree fort .
Nope, he slept on the ground in a tent for protection.
Needless to say, he and his GF became bear poop.
Russian roulette is a bad game .

Zackly.
They woulda ate him earlier if he didn't smell so bad.

Stinking hippies ;)

flipper35 09-13-2016 08:57 AM

He also stayed later in the year when they were fattening themselves up for winter. I think they had him trained pretty well.

wdfifteen 09-13-2016 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wayner (Post 9278866)
How many of you glossed over this without reading it?

A GOOD LAUGH:D

It's an old joke, but still funny.

Dantilla 09-13-2016 09:36 AM

Bear repellant:

An uncle had a bear hanging around his wilderness cabin.

Plastic bag filled with ammonia
Place plastic bag inside burlap sack
Smear bacon grease on burlap
Hang from eave of cabin.

The bear has to stand on his hind legs and swat the burlap to knock his treat down, but gets a face full of ammonia.

Never saw the bear again.

wdfifteen 09-13-2016 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by aigel (Post 9278644)
That's the bear? It has a big scar on its back section. Have to wonder where that is from?

G

After a lifetime of get shot with 22s, rubber bullets, and fireworks, not to mention the pepper spray and martini glasses, a bear is bound to have a few scars. :D

wdfifteen 09-13-2016 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by IROC (Post 9278799)
We rent cabins in the Smokies pretty often since they are less than an hour from our house. Bear sightings are common, and bears have gotten somewhat comfortable with people being around, but do not for a minute think they are harmless. I would specially be wary of young ones with a mother around. A black bear will ruin your day.

Also...welcome to East Tennessee!!

I appreciate your welcome. I get it from my wife every time we come down here. She was born and spent her early life in this area. She's says she feels like she's home when we cross Jellico Mountain.

RonDent 09-13-2016 10:53 AM

Everything I know about bears I learned from the Far Side!
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Craig T 09-13-2016 11:39 AM

I wasn't going to post, because it might anger Baz, but I had an ugly experience with a black bear. Did a remote fly fishing trip in Alaska. Dropped off by a tundra plane with five days of food and gear. The guide warned us that a rogue black bear had been giving people trouble in the area and told us to bring a pot and pan in the tent with us. If we heard the bear getting into our food we were to bang the pots and pans. Sure enough, there he was breaking into our cooler. The pots and pans just made him growl at us so the guide fired a shotgun onto the air and he scampered off. The stupid guide tells us to bring the food into our already too small tents. He says the bears won't come into the tents with people there. WRONG! One hour later I wake up to the bear tearing open the door to our tent, then another shotgun blast. I hadn't been there 8 hours and there's a dead bear in the camp. I felt bad for the bear, but not as bad as I would have felt eating nothing but berries, grubs, and salmon for five dates until the plane came back.

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flipper35 09-13-2016 11:43 AM

^ Sounds like a not as smart as they should be guide here.

scottmandue 09-13-2016 11:52 AM

I'm a city boy and even I know to never bring food inside the tent (well, okay I was a Boy Scout).

As Motion points out if you go out in the wilderness there are a lot of critters that can/will eat you, bears, mountain lions, wolfs.
And lets not forget poisonous snakes/spiders/scorpions that can mess up your day.

If you are afraid of the wilderness... don't go there.

I hike the central coast... mountain lions and rattle snakes are common... one time I came across a pile of mountain lion scat... kept walking saying "mountain lions are nocturnal... mountain lions are nocturnal..."

not sharp 09-13-2016 12:10 PM

Carry a small fog horn, for a boat, that size or smaller. a shrill whistle will work , as well.

flipper35 09-13-2016 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 9279443)
I'm a city boy and even I know to never bring food inside the tent (well, okay I was a Boy Scout).

As Motion points out if you go out in the wilderness there are a lot of critters that can/will eat you, bears, mountain lions, wolfs.
And lets not forget poisonous snakes/spiders/scorpions that can mess up your day.

If you are afraid of the wilderness... don't go there.

I hike the central coast... mountain lions and rattle snakes are common... one time I came across a pile of mountain lion scat... kept walking saying "mountain lions are nocturnal... mountain lions are nocturnal..."

They may be but the one we saw back in the 80s out bow hunting was in the middle of the morning. Two weeks later we saw her and her kit during gun deer season in broad daylight. Of course the Wisconsin DNR had to tell us that the ten in our group did not see one because they do not live in Wisconsin. Later they saw them on game cameras when the cameras started to become affordable. We have black bear as well as wolves and coyote but the 'yotes stay away from humans pretty well, even when you step on one they run away.

Aerkuld 09-13-2016 12:37 PM

What do you know about bears?
 
You know they can read, right?

"Coleman", "Playmate", and "Igloo"


I've had some experience with bears on backpacking trips in the Sierras. Never lost any food as we were sure to hang it up in the trees.
The trick is to find a branch that's high enough, and far enough out from the tree that the bear can't reach it. You also have to make sure it's a thin enough branch that the bear can't climb along it, but not so weak that it can bend it from the trunk. You then need to get a length of rope up, and over the branch.
All the food goes in the stuff sack to your sleeping bag which you tie on one end of the rope. Before settling in for the night you hoist the food up the tree and tie off the other end of the rope somewhere off the ground, and away from the tree with the food.
If you tie your cooking pan and mug around the bottom of the tree it serves as an 'early warning' system. Every bear we've ever encountered would run away if you make a lot of noise, make yourself look as big as possible, and throw sticks if needed.

On one particular trip we were warned by a Ranger about a particular bear in one area which would find a camp, then wait until people had sat down to eat. It would than wander in to the camp, and rear up on it's hind legs. That made most people drop their food and run. The bear then polished off the nice cooked food. Apparently, if you stood your ground, made a noise, waved a big stick around, then the bear would high tail it out. If I recall, the Park Service were trying to catch it to relocate it to less frequented areas.

tcar 09-13-2016 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 9279443)
... one time I came across a pile of mountain lion scat... kept walking saying "mountain lions are nocturnal... mountain lions are nocturnal..."

We have a bridge here (Scott Lancaster Bridge) near Idaho Springs.

Named after a jogger that was killed by a Mountian Lion... during the day.

Dantilla 09-13-2016 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 9279443)
... kept walking saying "mountain lions are nocturnal... mountain lions are nocturnal..."

I've hiked a few times where kitty-kat left tracks inside the tracks I made earlier in the day!
Only time I actually saw a mountain lion, a momma and her tiny cub, was very early in the morning, but still bright daylight. I was still driving the Jeep up the Forest Service roads to the trailhead.

JavaBrewer 09-13-2016 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 9279726)
I've hiked a few times where kitty-kat left tracks inside the tracks I made earlier in the day!
Only time I actually saw a mountain lion, a momma and her tiny cub, was very early in the morning, but still bright daylight. I was still driving the Jeep up the Forest Service roads to the trailhead.

Same for me. Late afternoon hike in the hills above San Marcos. Mtn Lions are spotted there every month or so. I was alone on a trail and once around a bend in a more isolated part of the mountain I got a strong sense I was not alone. Decided to turn back and about 200 yards later picked up a couple rocks and threw them into the brush and yelled to get away. A bit further back down the trail I gathered a couple more and noticed the tracks alongside my prints. Dropped the smaller rocks in favor of a couple big ones and walked past go no stopping to trail head. I was seriously spooked. Happy to drop those rocks and get inside - we lived 100 yards from the trail head.

Bears are sneaky fast for their size. We were driving in Banff Alberta and stopped at the roadside where others were pulled over. There was a medium sized black bear down the embankment ~ 30 yards walking and taking glances at us humans on the guardrail looking down. The bear suddenly made a move up toward us and in like 3 steps was 5 feel from the guard rail. I still remember this guy jumped back and cleanly tearing the extended side mirror off a car towing a trailer. The bear stood there for a moment, I guess laughing under his breath, then wandered back down toward the forest and disappeared. That was 40+ years ago, left quite an impression on me.

Cajundaddy 09-13-2016 04:45 PM

This was a little discovery one morning on a trail in Yellowstone a few years ago. It was early November, it had only stopped snowing an hour earlier so we knew this bear was pretty close and probably hungry. Judging by the quarter placed alongside the tracks I guessed a 300 lb griz. We decided we had enough of that trail and moved back to our car with bear spray in hand, regularly checking our six.

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KFC911 09-13-2016 04:49 PM

Yabba dabba doo doo ...

sammyg2 09-14-2016 05:31 AM

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Evans, Marv 09-14-2016 07:07 AM

As a follow up on JavaBrewer's post, a mountain lion killed a lady hiker on the back side of Mt. Cuyamaca (San Diego County) in 1996. They thought it was probably in a starving state. There is a bench with a memorial plaque on it near the location she was killed on the fire road going up to the top. I found out a couple of sounds that seem to scare bears. This was years ago and sort of by chance from making the sounds as kind of a reflex when a bear was near. I tried to make a rattling sound to imitate a rattle snake using my tongue. They ran every time I did that. The other sound I used (only once) was a "harrumph" sound sort of like an irritated bear. I did that as kind of reflex thing one night when I was awakened by the crunching of twigs near my sleeping bag. I sat up and made that "harrumph" sound and heard the bear take off running away. I thought that was pretty cool at the time. I wouldn't try to depend on these things to deter a determined bear though.

Por_sha911 09-14-2016 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9278771)
Your math is a bit off imo...
.22 x 2 + mag + luck

I guess you didn't read my second post:
Quote:

Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 9278588)
A Black bear is every bit as dangerous as a grizzly. They are eating machines and very intelligent. A .22 pistol would not even slow a grown bear down..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 9278607)
I was waiting for someone to throw me the straight line.

You can't outrun a bear. You shoot your friend in the leg and outrun them...



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