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MBAtarga 09-29-2016 04:14 PM

Pelican Marines - sword & scabbard display?
 
My son is making a surprise gift display plaque for a friend from his college fraternity that will display his sword and scabbard and have room for a Marine seal and a small brass name plate. The problem is he was told by friend's wife that the sword is 40" long.

Looking on-line, we've found several sources for plaques and for swords - but the longest sword I've found is 36" - is that the blade only? I'm wondering is there a "standard" issue sword length. My son is having to build the plaque and ship it out of state - so we've got to design this thing correctly - and we're not sure what distance to mount the brackets.

Any of you Marines have info that might help? Thanks in advance.

Example plaque being made:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475190660.gif

Danimal16 09-29-2016 04:19 PM

Is he an Marine Officer or a Marine NCO?

MBAtarga 09-29-2016 04:46 PM

Had to check with son - but friend is a Marine Officer

Eric Coffey 09-29-2016 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 9300075)
Looking on-line, we've found several sources for plaques and for swords - but the longest sword I've found is 36" - is that the blade only? I'm wondering is there a "standard" issue sword length.

Yep, blade length. There is no "standard issue" length, as it is based upon your height/arm length.
Also, they are not issued. If you rate one, you have to buy them (not cheap). I believe there are several blade lengths available, up to 35".

Officer sword: Ivory handle, brass/gold hilt, no hand guard.
NCO sword: wrapped brass/gold handle/hilt, full hand guard.

FOG 09-29-2016 05:34 PM

Marine officers swords are called Mameluke from the Shores of Tripoli. The Mameluke is curved as is the scabbard. The amount of curvature varies slightly between makers. As Ivory is no longer importable (legally) synthetics/substitutions are allowed. Lengths can be more than 35". A pretty good guess on the blade length is sleeve length minus one inch.

The sword you showed is a NCO sword.

S/F FOG

Danimal16 09-29-2016 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOG (Post 9300159)
Marine officers swords are called Mameluke from the Shores of Tripoli. The Mameluke is curved as is the scabbard. The amount of curvature varies slightly between makers. As Ivory is no longer importable (legally) synthetics/substitutions are allowed. Lengths can be more than 35". A pretty good guess on the blade length is sleeve length minus one inch.

The sword you showed is a NCO sword.

S/F FOG

All this with the exception that the sword is an Navy Officer's Sword.

Danimal16 09-29-2016 06:31 PM

USMC NCO Sword
 
Similar to Navy Officer Sword but note the dark Grip.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475198859.jpg

Also the Knot is very different.

rcecale 09-29-2016 07:09 PM

Marine Officer's Mameluke Sword...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475201352.jpg

Randy

FOG 09-29-2016 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danimal16 (Post 9300192)
All this with the exception that the sword is an Navy Officer's Sword.

I stand corrected; chalk it up to studity, laziness, lack of education, Bourbon, Single Malt scotch, drugs or any combination of these.

S/F, FOG

rcecale 09-29-2016 08:23 PM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/h_YCbojvgvg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Randy

M.D. Holloway 09-29-2016 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOG (Post 9300245)
I stand corrected; chalk it up to studity, laziness, lack of education, Bourbon, Single Malt scotch, drugs or any combination of these.

S/F, FOG

I call party at your house!

sc_rufctr 09-30-2016 01:02 AM

A sword is normally measured by its blade only so I would guess* your friends sword is 40" long including the handle.

Danimal16 09-30-2016 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m.d. Holloway (Post 9300314)
i call party at your house!

yes!

Danimal16 09-30-2016 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOG (Post 9300245)
I stand corrected; chalk it up to studity, laziness, lack of education, Bourbon, Single Malt scotch, drugs or any combination of these.

S/F, FOG

The USN CPO Cutlass is another really cool Sword.

Danimal16 09-30-2016 07:10 AM

Here is a photo of the CPO Cutlass.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475244602.jpg

MBAtarga 09-30-2016 07:33 AM

OK - this helps guys - I knew there would be some Pelicans to help. I didn't realize the length was "personalized" to arm length. I do know this guy is on the tall side. The 40" was given to my son by his wife - so that is probably tip of the scabbard to the tip of the handle - as I doubt she removed the sword from the scabbard. Also - my son stated the sword does not have a guard - so I think it looks like Randy's (rececale) posted picture.

I'm thinking we will leave the brackets unmounted/undrilled and have the Marine actually locate them on the plaque himself. I don't want to have holes pre-drilled in the plaque that is our best guess at placement without having access to the actual item.

John Rogers 09-30-2016 09:23 AM

I see you are in GA and they have some military bases there so I would suggest going to one of them and in their on base exchange or PX there is always a shop that does "shadow boxes" and they know how to do them correct. No worries, no sweating about getting it wrong, ETC, ETC.

stogie25 09-30-2016 01:32 PM

When my girlfriends kid made corporal last year I bought him a saber. While at it I bought one for myself even though it has been 25 years since I was a Marine corporal. I keep mine displayed in a built in. Mine is a 30" NCO saber.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/m...psashwesle.jpg


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