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Bob Kontak 10-05-2016 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Ro (Post 9307571)
Bob,
Some info on those Q2's...also the Servo Statik system that I had.
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Infinity

Thank you.

Will review in the morning. I do recall my pal walking away from the 901's post Infinity speakers. Not in a bad or mean way, just in a no comparison way. All were driven with McIntosh.

The 901's were relegated to garage speakers.

On the upside, that's what I got. A garage.:D

Bob Kontak 10-05-2016 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Von (Post 9307573)
Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.
Great speakers to say the least.

That's what I need to hear.

I was heading this way regardless............

aschen 10-05-2016 07:29 PM

I think the reviewer was having a bit of fun being a bit audiophile contrarian to his enthusiast readers. 901s are a unique speaker in several ways, and alot of the Internet flack they get and Bose gets is justified. I think they probably make for pretty great room filling general music speakers. I think they are one of the very few Bose products that are appropriately priced. However if you are a sit down and listen to music kinda person, their are much better choices. They cannot measure well by the nature of their driver compliment. All the eq in the world can't give a 4" driver a good high frequency response. Most of the highest tech speakers now try to minimize the reaction with the room, the 901s try to maximize it. Lots of vintage speakers from altec, klipsch, etc are desirable but the hobbiests are more appothetic towards the 901s.

Not trying to badmouth them really, but there is alot more truth to some of the criticisms than audiophile snobbery. I like your set because they are old and old is cool

Don Ro 10-05-2016 07:55 PM

"I like your set because they are old and old is cool "
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Old is cool when they're rebuilt "old"...IMO. ;)
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If I had those 901's and were restored, I use them in my garage for great garage sound.

RKDinOKC 10-05-2016 10:57 PM

Have some really nice dbx, Soundfield Model SF250s. Got them new in 81 right before dbx sold their name to that cheap DAK stuff. The neat thing is you can pretty much put them anywhere near a wall and they create a soundstage that you still hear perfect stereo anywhere in the room even sitting a foot directly in front of one of the speakers. They are designed so you hear the same volume from each speaker over the full spectrum no matter where you are in the room.

A few years ago the foam surrounds went. Took them to a couple of guys working out of a garage that had speaker stuff everywhere. They did a fantastic job and they sound like new and it was cheap too. Found them on the internet.

I've had surround sound since the 80's using the dbx for the left and right front speakers tp create a soundstage with no sweat spot, you can be anywhere in the room not just centered between the two speakers. They worked so well for years I didn't use a center speaker and you would swear there was a center speaker no matter where you were in the room. I have some Boston Acoustic bidirectional wall speakers for the rear. They work good, but if you get within 5 ft of either speaker the surround rear stage is broken and you hear the speaker you are closest to for the rear sound. Had to finally add a center speaker for dialog as most surround processors put movie dialog on the center channel and didn't offer setting up with just 4 speakers like they used to.

Honestly I would love to put a pair 901s on the rear channels. Indirect reflecting full spectrum speakers would be fantastic for the rear sound channels! That is pretty much what the rear surround is, reflected sound. And as far as the equalizer most surround systems will tune the environment to the available speakers automatically using test tones and a microphone. I think even a set of the 301 bookself speakers would do great.

KFC911 10-06-2016 02:44 AM

901s are loud azz rock 'n roll speakers, not audiophile quality...and there's not a damn thing wrong with that :). They need gobs of power. One thing I Iove about my vintage Polks which in theory require precise room placement too....they don't, and neither do the 901s imo. If your garage isn't optimal, try turning them around so the eight drivers are firing forward and see for yourself.

I have a several pairs of Polk SDAs...170 lbs each, with 13 drivers....no foam :). They rock regardless of room placement...listen to your own ears and rock on...

Bob Kontak 10-06-2016 04:18 AM

I pulled one panel off. Cloth surrounds are intact. In fact, don't even look tired.

Going to hook them up today.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475756294.jpg

Don Ro 10-06-2016 06:56 AM

It looks like you have a set of "new" 901's. How sweet is that? :)

Bob Kontak 10-06-2016 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Ro (Post 9308057)
It looks like you have a set of "new" 901's. How sweet is that? :)

Could be worse. The sun is shining today!

Had to pull off the vertical edge wood. Speaker kept a bit of the wood. Will glue back nicely.

Downloaded the user manual. Use tape monitor plug-ins? This will be interesting. I never understood that function from the get go.

What am I going to do with my Tandberg?

Servostatic is a different speaker. Unique. Skinny panels. I do like the look.

aschen 10-06-2016 09:43 AM

sweet! surely They have been rebuilt / refoamed at some point? Im not sure those look like 40 year old screws.

If you use a single source you can put the eq between the source and the amp as well. Probably the eq is in good shape as well if the speakers are any indication

Bob Kontak 10-06-2016 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by aschen (Post 9308315)
sweet! surely They have been rebuilt / refoamed at some point? Im not sure those look like 40 year old screws.

If you use a single source you can put the eq between the source and the amp as well. Probably the eq is in good shape as well if the speakers are any indication

I have read the Series 1's have fabric surrounds and they are robust. But these simply look too new. Agree on the screws. Just too spiffy. There should be some patina on them if original.

I do use a single source at the shop. This is getting better all the time.

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Originally Posted by RKDinOKC (Post 9307762)
Have some really nice dbx, Soundfield Model SF250s.

I can't find reference to these on the internet. I only see a very few soundfield units. Interested in what they look like.

Bob Kontak 10-06-2016 10:37 AM

Got them going. Not bad at all for six inches apart and one firing right into the sawzall box and the other into a gallon can of PB blaster.

Way more oomph than the Acoustimass. Lots of work to do to clean up contacts and switches, etc. e.g, I can hear cooties in the tape monitor switch.

When these are dialed in, they will be super.

Bob Kontak 10-06-2016 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Ro (Post 9307488)
When I got my Infinity Servo Statik (Electrostatic panels & bass commode) system and we heard such marvelous ..............

OMG. Thanks so much for mentioning these. Called my pal and brought them up. Just kill me. 1/2 hour of Infinity yak. He called them pieso-electric (heh heh - hey, chemo two days ago, still beat up).

Now what he did say when I said the 901's get beat up vs any high end set (he's well aware of the heat they get) he said "It depends". He said roughly what KC911 says, they are awesome in the right venue.

Anyhoo, WD-40'd from inside the eq Tape (normal vs monitor) switch and clarity doubled. Round caps did not look puffy but have viewed websites that say there is more to it to rival brand new.

These bury my Acoustimass "reference" speakers. They literally sound like intercom speakers in comparison. The 901's have stones and they are on the ground now right next to each other.

Some casual advice requested. My garage is 50 foot deep and 14' high.

I have an open canvas for placement save they must be 8' off the ground.:) How far apart you guys think?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475792560.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1475792602.jpg

enzo1 10-06-2016 03:29 PM

Someone can chime in, seems like they required a lot of power....nice ! Placement is critical to good sound. My buddy messed with his for 2 months before he got them just right. Humidity is the killer...

enzo1 10-06-2016 03:49 PM

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KFC911 10-06-2016 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by enzo1 (Post 9308859)
Someone can chime in, seems like they required a lot of power....nice ! Placement is critical to good sound. My buddy messed with his for 2 months before he got them just right. Humidity is the killer...

Yep, lots of power....a wimpy receiver/amp won't do them justice...you can NEVER have too much power for speakers like these...several hundred watts minimum.
Two bi-amped Carvers at 1000 watts each would be mo' better :). Disagree about room placement however...you can use them "backwards" (with the drivers facing the listener) and they will still rock your world...YMMV.

enzo1 10-06-2016 03:51 PM

http://products.bose.com/pdf/customer_service/owners/og_901.pdf

Bob Kontak 10-06-2016 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9308892)
Disagree about room placement however...you can use them "backwards" (with the drivers facing the listener) and they will still rock your world...YMMV.

Both are to my right on the floor, snuggling. I am vitally impressed with where they sit right now but I am no audiophile and have what I thought (yesterday) kick ass speakers to compare them to.

There clearly is (must be) a step change benefit from separation and bouncing off the wall as designed.

However, owner's manual basically says do what you want. Point at the wall and keep them at least six feet apart. Sounds like fuss around until you are happiest.

Bob Kontak 10-06-2016 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by enzo1 (Post 9308896)

Thanks. The link is Series 6. Mine is Series 1, A dinosaur.

Drivers have no foam in the original. Fabric. Plus no air ports.

Check out the type written instructions from the original. Old.

http://worldwide.bose.com/axa/assets/pdf/owner_guides/StereoSpeakers/901_guide.pdf


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