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jyl 11-03-2016 05:20 PM

Complaining About Microsoft And Apple
 
First, I'm going to complain about Microsoft.

I've mentioned before being positive on Windows 10. I use it in a Parallels VM and have had a good experience with it.

However, something bothers me, and I don't understand why Microsoft does it this way.

Windows 10 seems to be installing upgrades and patches all the time. I went to Microsoft's site and officially there has been about one update per month since 10 went production in mid 2015. Hmm. I'd swear I'm seeing updates more often than that.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12387/windows-10-update-history

In comparison, Apple seems to update Mac OS about once every other month, after the initial release and a short flurry of quick initial updates.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS_X_El_Capitan
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Sierra

Since I'm running 10 in a VM, frequent updates are not as irritating as if I actually had to hard restart my MacBook Pro each time Windows wants to update. But it is still an irritant.

Now I'm going to complain about Apple.

Siri doesn't communicate anything like how a real person would communicate, and that's because when she doesn't understand you, that's the end of the conversation. A real person asks you questions to clarify, or asks you how to spell a word that it doesn't recognize. For example, suppose you tell Siri "send a message to Silka". Your friend happens to be named Silka (yes, I recently made a friend with this name). Siri has no idea what that word is or how it is spelled. A person would ask "how do you spell that" and you'd say "S I L K A", and you'd carry on the conversation. But Siri is too stupid to do that. As far as I know, there no way to spell unusual words or names for Siri. WTF. Is everyone at Apple named Tom, Jane, and Mary? Granted, I don't know of any consumer voice driven AI that can accept a spelled-out word. But that doesn't make Siri less irritating.

Okay, I'm done. I just suffer through weekly Windows updates and ignore Siri.

masraum 11-03-2016 05:26 PM

I don't yet have Win 10. I'm still running 7. I have 7 set to download but not install updates until I tell it to install them (and possibly pick which updates I want to install). Sometimes an update will sit there a few days, sometimes several weeks before I get around to installing and if necessary, rebooting.

Yeah, Siri does occasionally have issues, but all in all, it's not bad for certain fairly simple things as long as you don't through an usual proper name at it. That's a genius idea that you had about Siri asking "how do you spell that" when it doesn't understand.

HardDrive 11-03-2016 06:15 PM

Ubuntu.

winders 11-03-2016 06:35 PM

Stop with the Ubuntu crap.

Teach Siri to Correctly Recognize and Pronounce Names in Your Address Book

id10t 11-03-2016 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winders (Post 9345185)
Stop with the Ubuntu crap.

Indeed - we all know that pure Debian is the One True Way.

:D


Seriously though, Ubuntu is going a little crazy. Linux Mint 18 - based on Ubuntu, without the dumb ass GUI design changes.

scottmandue 11-03-2016 07:20 PM

I have Win 7 here at work and it seems to update every few weeks.

Eric Coffey 11-03-2016 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 9345104)
I just suffer through weekly Windows updates and ignore Siri.

FYI, I was getting a bit annoyed at the Win10 update frequency as well. However, on the latest update, it failed to take, and ended up "restoring the previous version". I then made sure the "defer upgrades" box was checked in Updates, and also have the "give me updates for other Microsoft products" box unchecked. Also have it set for notification vs. automatic download. So far so good.

You can also just disable it completely in "Services" (scroll down to Windows Update>right click>properties>choose disable>done).

jyl 11-03-2016 09:42 PM

The thing is, my skepticism of Microsoft security is such that I don't want to delay or skip updates to 10.

Holger 11-04-2016 12:07 AM

How to Stop Windows 10 From Uploading Updates to Other PCs Over the Internet

HardDrive 11-04-2016 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by id10t (Post 9345215)
Indeed - we all know that pure Debian is the One True Way.
.

Blasphemy! :D

widgeon13 11-04-2016 03:14 AM

What's Siri?

sc_rufctr 11-04-2016 03:21 AM

Computers & tech used to be about doing things better. Now it's about making as much money as possible with the minimal outlay.

Porsche-O-Phile 11-04-2016 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 9345380)
Computers & tech used to be about doing things better. Now it's about making as much money as possible with the minimal outlay.

Agreed, it's now like every other business and industry out there. Uninspiring.

GH85Carrera 11-04-2016 05:16 AM

Overall I like my iPhone and iPad. My wife LOVES her iPad and likes her iPhone. It is solid equipment and software EXCEPT for iTunes. That is the worst piece of software I have EVER used and I still have a copy of DOS 1.1 that came with a PC I had. Heck I used a Commodore 64 before and even back to a Vic 16 with a cassette tape drive. iTunes still wins as the worst software of them all.

My biggest complaint about Windows 10 is it treats every computer as if it is a laptop and the owner will absolutely want to play on all the social sites and sync to all the other devices anyone could own.

The need a version for business that is concentrated on pure performance. Forget all the on-line connectivity, just a safe solid web browser and no gaming, no social connections, one drive, weather, news, tablet mode, money, and all the other bloat ware, and most of all no Cortina. Just make my hardware as fast as possible for work. My workstation computer has two giant video cards, a 12 core CPU, 8 hard drives and 128 gig of ram. No games.

HardDrive 11-04-2016 05:30 AM

I would argue iPhoto is worse than itunes, but it's close.

jyl 11-04-2016 04:43 PM

I have no major issues with iPhoto or iTunes, but I've been using those apps for a long time and don't do too much with either. iTunes tries to cram so many different functions into one app - iPhone sync, music, movies, podcasts, streaming music, etc. A single purpose app is often simpler, e.g. Spotify. iPhoto is being phased out in favor of Photos, which puzzles me. Why not simply improve iPhoto?

On Windows 10, all I ever use it for is productivity stuff. Excel, Word, Outlook. I really haven't noticed the groovy multimedia social stuff getting in my way, although I do see that it is there. I guess that, compared to previous Windows, I'm most impressed by 10's stability. In about a year of using 10, I've experienced two or three freezes (like, have to hard shut down) and one corruption that required reinstallation. For Windows, that seems pretty good. It is a slick, speedy OS most of the time.

We're deeply into the Apple ecosystem of iPhones, iCloud, Mac, Apple Music, so I'm not inclined to move to Windows as my main OS. But I'm perfectly happy working in 10 half the time, via Parallels.

If my company would ever move our corporate machines to 10, I'd be delighted.

I did read that IBM is moving to Macs and has found much lower administration costs that way.

masraum 11-04-2016 04:51 PM

Maybe I don't do enough with iTunes for it to be annoying, but I haven't had a problem with it in many, many years (maybe 10-12 years). A couple of times that it's been updated, it has changed the interface a bit, and I have to search to figure out how to get back to the way I want to see things. For playing music, it seems to work fine. I also have movies and shows loaded into it that stream to my AppleTV, and it works fine for that as well as the books and PDFs that is manages for my ipad. It's not perfect, but the issues that I have with it are small, and mostly revolve around the meta-data that's associated with various files.

masraum 11-04-2016 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 9346475)
I'm most impressed by 10's stability. In about a year of using 10, I've experienced two or three freezes (like, have to hard shut down) and one corruption that required reinstallation. For Windows, that seems pretty good. It is a slick, speedy OS most of the time.

We're deeply into the Apple ecosystem of iPhones, iCloud, Mac, Apple Music, so I'm not inclined to move to Windows as my main OS. But I'm perfectly happy working in 10 half the time, via Parallels.

Weird, I've been running Win 7 for several years, and have had very, very few issues that you call "freezes" in that time. I also let my PC run 24x7, and only normally reboot if I have to for some sort of upgrade.

We have been slowly moving towards the Apple ecosystem. First it was an iPad for me, then an AppleTV, then a Macbook Air for the missus, then we both got iPhones, and after getting to know her Macbook so I could show her around, I decided that my next PC will be an iMac so now I'm waiting for my HP All-in-one computer to die or become outdated, but it won't. It just keeps ticking along and doesn't show signs of slowing down which is probably good, because I plan to get one of the 5k 27" iMacs and spec it out so it lasts a long time which will be pricey.

winders 11-04-2016 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 9346482)
...I plan to get one of the 5k 27" iMacs and spec it out so it lasts a long time which will be pricey.

Me too. I was really hoping that Apple would have introduced new versions along with the MacBooks last month.

My plan is to order it with the fastest processor, the least amount of memory, the best video card, and a 1TB SSD. I fill it up with memory from OWC which will save me a lot of cash. I will get a OWC ThunderBay 4 four drive enclosure for my Time Machine and CCC clone drive. I will have one big drive for data storage and another to clone it to for backup.

jyl 11-04-2016 05:23 PM

I'm torn on the Mac desktop thing. I absolutely want (require, even) dual monitors, triple is even better, and I hate it when monitors don't match.

At one point, you could get an iMac plus matching Apple monitor, it was spendy but doable. Now Apple no longer makes monitors, so an iMac is no-go for me, unless someone makes a monitor that looks exactly like an iMac.

The other option is a Mac mini driving dual aftermarket monitors, which is the way I went for my last desktop purchase, but Apple is no longer making a quad-core Mac mini. If the next Mac mini (assuming Apple ever updates that product) remains a dual-core machine, that will make it a no-go for me.

So where will that leave me? I'm surely not paying $5000 for a Mac Pro. I might get a MacBook Pro 15" and run dual monitors for three screens. But only having USB-C ports means you need a fistful of dongles, or a dock, the latter would be fine if it works very well. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what Apple does with the Mac line from here.

If I were Apple, I'd have developed a MacBook Pro 17" that does everything the super power users want: 64 GB RAM, SD + HDMI + standard USB + USB-C ports, and ESC key. Introduce it with an updated Mac Pro. Price it high, accept that it's a low volume product.


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