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25 years ago when I was in the motorcycle business I went to a Bridgestone tire seminar. They ran a rear motorcycle tire with a dozen plug-patches at high speed without problems. Their advice was don't worry about it.
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Let's look at it another way, has anyone, anywhere, ever had a plugged tire fail? I've been on this board a long time, and this question has been posted dozens of times over the years. Never once has anyone experienced a failure of a plugged tire. Be it rope or internal plug.
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I have plugged a lot of tires with the rubber-rope Harbor Freight kits.
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Especially with the repair on the inside I wouldn't worry about it. It's not like it's going to fall off.
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At the dealership level, PCNA did not want us to plug tires. It was a liability issue with them. I think they felt you never knew if the penetration damaged a ply. I think their concern was after a dealer plugged a tire, if the customer took the car to the track and that tire caused an accident...they did not want to open that can of worms. We referred customers to the local tire shop for plugging/patching.--Dave
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Its like when I was in college, 40+ years ago, I worked at a bicycle shop, in Northampton, MA, home to Smith College (women's college, a rich school with lots of parents who were lawyers), we did NOT patch inner tubes, the Boss said we didn't need the liability for a $2.00 patch versus a $5.00 new inner tube. Plus labor to take the tire off and on. Same work, different liability.
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I've done 240kph with a plug, it's really no big deal if you ask me. Obviously you don't do it right after the plug was done. But you do not get a tire blow out from a plugged minor leaking puncture. |
If it's patched from the inside, I would. If it's plugged from the outside, as long as it is in the center of the tire (which it is) I would for street use, but probably not for track use.
I learned my lesson about tires during my very first track event, at age 18 in the family 320iS at Road Atlanta, when my plugged-on-the-outer-edge left front tire started losing lots of air by the end of the first day. Rotated a good tire to the left front, put the spare on the right rear. Then that one blew in the esses. Minor thrill. |
Hole needs to be at least an inch away from sidewall for success.
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I have had plenty of plugs in my life. As long as they are not on the side wall or on a "slick" tire/R compound you should be good to go.
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We have a tire plugged on our SUV and I forgot all about it until this thread. Plugged it 3 years ago. This is on our summer tires and we run Blizzaks for the winter so it has had 3 spring, summer and fall cycles on it.
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It might be a good tire, but certainly not a great tire.
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Before calling roadside? So, you're jacking the car while she's on the phone? Even if this lie were true, it does NOT take 5 minutes (phone call) And sorry, no chance in hell you're getting the right leverage with the wheel still on the car. You need to jack up the car You need to dismount the tire. You need to remove the nail (can be a fight when it's flush) You need to drill out the hole You need to fight the tire and jam in the plug You need to repeat this 5 times, since the plug comes out with the tool. You need to re-inflate the tire. You need to remount the tire. You need to jack down the car. |
I noticed a slow leak the last few weeks.
Jacked up the car today and found the nail. Got a plug kit and got it done, after several attempts. I will monitor the pressure over the next few days. |
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I've plugged a hole by the side of the road Turned front wheel to the side found the hole with some water The nail was already gone ran the hand drill through 5 times stuffed the plug in cut it off with a boxcutter blade re-inflated it with the little compressor drove it home obviously the rear can be done as well, it's just more work jacking up the car and getting the wheel off.. But that's not a complicated thing either : you have to do the same thing if you want to put on a spare tire.. Same skill set. |
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I lost 20 minutes Saturday morning getting those used shoes. It's a beater. And I beat the hell out of it, more so than anyone else here does with any car they have. I can promise you that. |
I carry a plug kit in my 911 and it is so small it just stays in the trunk. I have never needed it, but I also carry a can of fix a flat that is old enough I may toss it and get a new can. In the 911 as all you likely know it is a royal pain to get a flat in the rear. Jack up the car, remove both front and rear tire, put the front in the rear position, put the collapsible spare tire on the front, and find some place to put the dirty flat rear tire. On a road trip with my wife the car is packed full and I honestly have no idea how I could do that.
I have been lucky in my 25 years, and 41 states of roads trips and I have not had one flat. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1605538003.jpg This all came out of my 911 and I left the tool bag and car washing bag in the car. |
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