Look what we bought today
 

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Not on everyone's list I know, but I've always wanted one. Not sure if this is a 409 or a 348. Has three deuces manifold, we have the carbs for it. Carters I think. We're excited on this, (so far)http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479250460.jpg

A friend in high school (MANY years ago) had a '60 Impala with 348 and 3 deuces. Didn't all the 409s come with dual Carter AFB 4 barrels ??

Awesome !

awesome and a heck of a coinky-dink.

This car is on my watch list this weekend at the mecum auction:

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https://www.mecum.com/lots/AN1116-260969/1930-ford-roadster/

Super cool! 348 or 409?

Oops ^ hadn't read enough to get to the "not sure if it's a 348 or 409" part.

3x2, very cool.

I know they had a 409hp 409 in '65, but i think that was a 2x4 setup.

Could be either one. 348s had dipstick on driver side, 409s had it on pass side - (pretty sure its that way) but the oil pan will bolt to either engine. Think you should run the block casting #s to be sure

Google's an amazing thing.

Block casting numbers - 348-409.com

Year used: 1958-1961
Model: Passenger car
Engine: 348
Horsepower: 250,280,305,340,350
Bore: 4.125
Stroke: 3.25
Main Journal: 2.50
Rod Journal: 2.20

Pretty sure the 348's can be bored to 409 equivalent, but has to done by someone who has the tooling and experience as the deck is slanted .....................

Wow, thanks for the info. I hadn't had time today to check the numbers. I knew the carb setup defined the engine size but couldn't remember which was which. Thank you all for the help.

I was busy today with this:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479264835.jpg
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The 348 sized engines had the 3 duces and the 409 sized had either a single 4 barrel and dual 4 barrels as a special order. The single 4 barrel 409 could also have an automatic but the dual engine had a hotter cam and 4 speed transmission and posi-traction rear end.

In all cases the 348 or 409 were actually made for light trucks and could only make power up to 6500 RPM or so.

She's real fine. Oh wait- she's real great...

As usual, JB puts his special touch on it. :D

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My nick name usta' be Stein 09.
The big problem with the 09 were the rods & main bearing being the same size of a 283.

^^^^^^Yes that's correct - The few "W" motors I saw as a kid had holes in the side of the block. It was largely due to very heavy piston design using complicated shaped tall / slanted domes to achieve high compression. Kinda like Porsches 3.2 - repeated trips to the red line will yield failed rod bolts / bearings on the big end

^^
Leave it to GM to put 2.2" rod journals in a 250 trillion horsepower engine.


"Year used: 1958-1961
Model: Passenger car
Engine: 348
Horsepower: 250,280,305,340,350
Bore: 4.125
Stroke: 3.25
Main Journal: 2.50
Rod Journal: 2.20 "

It got worse real quick.
There just wasn't enough meat in those cranks.....they bent when S...
Happens. The salvable bits of the bottom ends were few and all needed checking/rework. 409 cranks weren't cheap.....if you could find one.

Naturally, my first engine rebuild was one of those suckers.

GM & Ford both experimented with & produced engines in the mid 50's where the combustion chamber was in the piston, the cylinder head (valve side)was flat as a board - like a diesel engine..........

Now that is funny right there! :D:D