We didn't have ear protection with any guns, I said WE DIDN'T HAVE EAR PROTECTION... A silencer on a 22 sounds like a pop gun. Plus rabbits don't know which direction the shot came from. In my pic the gun on the right is a 22 and the next once over is a .17HMR. They are really loud without a silencer. With one they sound like an unsilenced 22.

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What are the laws for you to own firearms in NZ? Any special permits for the cans?

Hearing protection is the most significant reason IMO (safely firing without ear-pro).
Despite it's small size and fairly tame report, the transient spike of a .22LR 10/22 firing can still be 140+ dB, which is well beyond the threshold for hearing damage/loss.

Suppressors simply reduce things to a "hearing safe" level for most calibers/guns. That can still be pretty damn loud, especially for the bigger calibers, and shooting some of them suppressed without ear-pro can still lead to hearing loss.
However, since the .22 is a relatively small/quiet round, you get near "Hollywood quiet" levels with a good suppressor (and subsonic ammo). You also get additional practical benefits if you are hunting small game.

Suppressors or for polite and socially conscientious people. People who care for others, like running a muffler on your car. Firearms are very loud and rude in that way by nature. So controlling the sound is very polite to others. SmileWavy

Stick with the Ruger 10/22.
It is the standard by which all others are judged.
Just look at what the aftermarket provides. Most is geared toward the 10/22.
Don't buy the take-down model.

Mostly KIDD now with a aluminum Evolution stock (no longer available I think)

If the zombie apocalypse comes, it's my on foot bug out unit. Light and relatively speaking so is the ammo.

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You have to be 15 years or older, pass a simple test too. I'm B and C category also which means I'm allowed pistols and machine guns (gun club rules).

As far as cans go they like us to have them for the sake of our own hearing and others around us. Plus it doesn't annoy nieghbours. No special forms to fill out, you just buy one.

What's this? Logic applied to guns laws? Imagine that! :D

Here in the US, suppressor ownership is federally legal, but is not allowed in every State. Even in those states that do allow it, you have to go through an involved process (background check, fingerprinting, Chief LEO notification for your area, etc.).
You also have to pay a $200 "tax" per item, and wait several months before being approved/allowed to take possession. :rolleyes:

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Marlin Model 60. Cheap, holds plenty of rounds.

I really like the Browning semi auto 22 rifle. great size and weight.

The standard 10-22 Carbine makes one of the handiest field pieces imaginable. Very light, quite short, and a real joy to carry. Fairly inexpensive as well. Yes, dressing them all up is great good fun, but for plain old field utility, it's still hard to beat the original. Here's mine, an old pre-warning carbine with a real walnut stock, fitted with a Williams rear and an XS Sight Systems front. Pure hell on running jack rabbits:

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Of course my old Marlin 39A Mountie is every bit as handy, and every bit as effective. It wears an XS Sight Systems "ghost ring" set-up now as well. Here it is, on the far left (big brothers are an 1894 in .45 Colt and an 1895 in .45-70) :

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I love my 10/22 - hard to beat if you are looking for semi-auto to carry through the woods or brush.

Very light with the polymer furniture. I added some Kidd goodies, a red dot and mine is a sweet shooter.

Only downside is that semi-autos occasionally choke on the $.06 cent a round bulk ammo.

But, if you want to hit the target every time regardless of how crappy of .22 ammo you use, then you must check out the Henry's. Built in America or they won't be built at all.

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I have a Henry's 22 mag. Just plain blue.
Bought it in 2007...haven't shot it yet.

Bought my Belgium made Browning 22 auto 20 some yrs. ago. 'Love it.
So sleek, smooth, and lovely to hold/shoot. Have some glass on it now, but can't remember what.
I don't know why or how, but its recoil (if you can consider 22 recoil) is much less than any other 22 I've shot.
And it breaks down to half its operating size.

We have a couple 10/22 Carbines. One with a scope an done without. A couple weeks ago we shot at 60 yards and the scoped rifle group can easily be covered by a dime. Subsonic rounds don't cycle but otherwise have had no issues with them reliability wise. Once in a while a round doesn't fire, but that is the nature of cheap rimfire rounds.

I also have a .22 conversion on the 1911. It is also very accurate, but not entirely reliable, yet (300 rounds since new). Great trigger and easy to field strip.

Dad has an old savage pump that is ragged hole accurate as well.

If standard subsonic rounds - CCI SV, Remington SubSonic Hollow Points, CCI SubSonic HPs, most match ammo like SK Std+ - won't cycle, your 10/22 has issues.

If by "subsonic" you mean the special loads from Aguila (60grn SSS or 20grn Colibri or Super Colibri) or CCI (CCI Quiet) or CB loads (long or short, variety of makers) then yes, it won't cycle those. You *could* swap out to a light recoil spring and perhaps a lighter bolt (Volquartsen makes one to convert 10/22 to 22 Short) .... but then standard ammo would beat it up more.

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