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Originally Posted by livi (Post 9427139)

Yup. You will look the part. Attracting foxy ladies like flies. SmileWavy

Foxy ladies, hell...cruise by the nearest sorority house..

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Overall I did not have the car in for unscheduled issues and the car proved exceptionally reliable. Mind you I have put the 19000 miles on the car in the course of a little over 1.5 years. Service Tech thinks I have no problem with the car because it does get used a lot. Maseratis are high performance cars meant to be driven, not kept in the garage.

Anyway, my expenses were:

1. 6,500 mile service (oil change, lube job, general service items, including material and labor) $ 745.00

2. 12,500 mile service (lube, oil and filter change, general service items, plus CHANGE OF CLUTCH, CHANGE ALL TIRES) $ 9,800

3. 18000 mile service (first "big" service, changing all fluids, filters, ...) $ 2,700

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100420055131AAw1BQp

Looks like if you have a GOOD one, and you buy it NEW, the cost to maintain is around 80 cents per mile, if you don't break anything.
And it should get worse every year after that.

Does the 6 speed manual version have the same clutch issues?

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Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 9427141)

Does your wife know your looking at Maserati's? Or did you post here first, get ideas, then bring it up?

Regardless of my approach, I expect to be in the doghouse... for awhile anyways. Sometimes things like this are discussed in advance, sometimes not.

She's long admired the Audi TT. A family member has one, kind of don't want to have the same type of vehicle and just itching for something less generic.

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9427299)

This one is only $6500 :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1484061347.jpg

Funny! And then there was the Bi-turbo. Rewind to twenty years ago and nearly picked one up when the used market hovered around $10,000. Back then it was kinda quirky and rather addictive. Drove one for a week, manual trans. / had approx. 20k mileage. Decided on an Audi Quattro.

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 9427209)

It's like a Mercedes SL with a Ferrari motor and a full race transmission. Numb steering, comfy handling, epic motor, jerky transmission. The only time it works is blasting up an on ramp in full on manual mode. I had a 2003 Cambiocorsa coupe, I would have another with a stick and an aftermarket suspension. The buttons inside get sticky and peel, the dash panels scratch easily, and parts costs are insane. But damn did it sound nice....

Great insight. So the Italians are keeping in character with the crappy switches..,. lol. Just like my long missed Alfa GTV-6.

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Originally Posted by greglepore (Post 9427687)

Well, you've been told the clutches are suspect, so I'd want to know how much it costs to rr the trans and replace the clutches, that would give you a good idea. How much trouble can you afford?

This is primarily where the rational comes in. Realizing these are first year model and think the values are about low as it will get. $15,000 for a Ferrari powered, not too old of a car / conv. Italian flare is amazing. I've repeatedly kicked myself for passing on the budget Ferrari's thru the years. Fiat 246 Dino's and 308's. Now look what happened?!

At worst, if a $3,000 to $5,000 repair comes in over the next 3 years, then its not too bad. I just don't want a nuisance.

I'm also liking the somewhat lower profile and color of the OP car. Think the average person might glance at it as if a Toyota of xyz model.

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9427738)

Thanks for the links. Excellent feedback. It seems the consensus by most is to always use the paddles. These cars have certainly taken the depreciation and for a first model year, not that bad for issues. Replacement parts are another matter. I'm going to visit someone at the nearby dealership and pick his brain.

I don't know just yet and kind of like in a cloud of ether. :)

Honorable mention:
One other vehicle thats of interest is the Chrysler Crossfire conv. range of 2005-ish. Has the Damn'ler influence. Low cost. Has some stylin' going on, move pretty good.

Same price range ($18,000 OBO) for a 2005 w/ 22k miles bonus manual trans.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-Chrysler-Crossfire-/162346207208?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25cc9687e8:g :GH4AAOSwjDZYbWWv&item=162346207208

Peter-
They blocked the viewing on grounds of country copyright. hehe
I'll look for it in Amazon or other means. Thanks!

I kind of like the Mazzer, however had also heard that they eat clutches.

How is it as a candidate for a SBC transplant? :D

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Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 9427944)

I kind of like the Mazzer, however had also heard that they eat clutches.

How is it as a candidate for a SBC transplant? :D

AFAIC, the ferrari-based engine is the best part.

2002 - UK promo vid with Ivan Capelli.

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Poorly done vid of an aftermarket exhaust. Warms me up-
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Sobering to see Schumacher and makes one wonder about him. Anyways...
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Well, I would suspect it'll need a 5k clutch soon. Plus the normal 3-5k in maintenance that all of these pseudo-high end cars need.

But who am I to talk, I just bought m second 90's v12 Benz...and they avg me 3k/yr in repairs.

Do you have one with the hydraulic roof?

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Originally Posted by greglepore (Post 9428056)

Drool. But the $3k per year.... hmmm.

Wife was always hot over a see-dan Audi A8 but knowing more of their reputation, I squashed it. Went with the appliance MB 300 4matic. Pretty well reliable, some cheapness in a few area's but overall been cheap to own.

edit: Just opened with her on the OP car. Showing her the vids and pics of Schumacher. Replied... why? Oh boy.

My sense is these cars are at the beginning of what happened to 928s and 944s years ago. They will start to need expensive repairs and owners will sell them before having the work done. Then new owners buying a "cheap" Maserati won't pony up and depreciation quickly escalates with poor quality/half-baked repairs accelerating depreciation, wash, rinse, repeat.

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9428063)

Do you have one with the hydraulic roof?

Yes, a 96 r129. All of the cylinders leak eventually. But its a diy thing, there's a guy in Washington state that sells rebuilts (better than oem) for 700 bucks for all, and its about 6-8hrs work out and again in. But its not hard, you're not under the car and greasy, just tedious and careful. So no big deal in the greater scheme.

And yeah, I hear the cringe about the annual operating cost. Its actually not that bad most years if you diy. I'm getting older and my body is high mileage for my age, so I send out jobs most of you guys would do.

They aren't sports cars by any stretch. But they are VERY refined gt's-I have an sl and just bought a cl600 (same year) to replace a totaled s420 sedan, which was the best pure highway car I've ever owned.

The A8 my girl drives is not all that bad, its little stuff-like replacing the entire $1200 swaybar b/c the bushings are bad (in fairness, that included labor). Otherwise, no worse than the Benz's and 90's Bimmers we've had. Oh yeah, her switchgear peels too, no one could get eco friendly interior paint right in the early aughts.

Instead of the Crossfire you could probably get a real slk...

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Originally Posted by intakexhaust (Post 9427929)

Peter-
They blocked the viewing on grounds of country copyright. hehe
I'll look for it in Amazon or other means. Thanks!

How about this one?

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Here's a short snippet with good audio and visual.

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