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Shaun @ Tru6 01-15-2017 05:44 PM

Hidden Figures
 
Great movie, well worth seeing, may or may not make you angry at times while watching.

stevej37 01-15-2017 05:49 PM

I liked it. I expected Jim Parsons to have a larger role than he did.
There were a few things that I had forgotten about the Mercury Program.
Well worth seeing.

Evans, Marv 01-15-2017 05:54 PM

Wife & I saw it yesterday. It was one of those we walked out of agreeing we both liked it. Great story. Afterwards I commented to my wife it was good without all of the digital wizardry we see in movies now days. Of course there was probably a lot of digital wizardry that wasn't obvious.

stomachmonkey 01-15-2017 07:54 PM

A little slow here and there and unnecessarily over dramatized in spots but still well worth the price of admission.

One part, which at the time I thought was schmaltzy, turned out to be true.

John Glenn did actually ask for "the girl" to check and verify the data pumped out by the IBM before he would fly.

sand_man 01-16-2017 04:33 AM

My daughter saw it with her 8th grade class on a field trip. She has pretty advanced taste in movies and said she'd see it again with me.

John Rogers 01-16-2017 09:43 AM

That's the way life was. In the 1950's and even into the 1960's race was a particular thing. My home town had a poor black section, poor white section, middle class white section (where I grew up), rich black section and rich white section. Never did the folks from one part of town mingle or work together I.E. all business owners and such were white, cleaning folks were black. We did have some people from Puerto Rico and Cuba but they and black people were field workers.

At Dover AFB 95% of the people were white, cleaning people were black. They had integrated Air Force people but civilians were another matter.

I used to go through the poor areas to the river and bow hunt catfish and give them to the poor families on my way home. It has changed some now in the 21st century with integrated schools and teachers when people finally figured out skin color did not matter on how smart you were!

onevoice 01-16-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 9434416)

John Glenn did actually ask for "the girl" to check and verify the data pumped out by the IBM before he would fly.

Maybe, but probably not. Why didn't he ever mention it in his book.

The general idea of a single person being the go-no go determination flies in the face of everything NASA did, especially if it is asking a person who does calculations, not the person who actually DEVELOPED THE EQUATIONS:rolleyes: Those types of calculations were done by teams of people, and took lots of time.

There were a lot of unsung heroes in the space program, this movie, like most, mixes a lot of interpretation and politics into the "facts"

DanielDudley 01-16-2017 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by onevoice (Post 9435294)
Maybe, but probably not. Why didn't he ever mention it in his book.

The general idea of a single person being the go-no go determination flies in the face of everything NASA did, especially if it is asking a person who does calculations, not the person who actually DEVELOPED THE EQUATIONS:rolleyes: Those types of calculations were done by teams of people, and took lots of time.

There were a lot of unsung heroes in the space program, this movie, like most, mixes a lot of interpretation and politics into the "facts"

Actual interview with Katherine Johnson.

''You did more than calculations — in the film, you created “new” math to go from an elliptical to a parabolic orbit. Did you think of it as cutting-edge math at the time?

It was pure math. It was the solution to the problem. That was what we did. That’s why they needed mathematicians.


It was a good movie with a solid basis in fact. Katherine Johnson was a mathematical savant. I don't doubt that for a second.

There’s this lovely part in the movie in which your character turns to “old” math — Euler’s method — to figure out how to get John Glenn back down from orbit. Did that really happen?

It seemed logical to me. I could see in my mind what I needed and sort of worked backwards.

Did you ever have to fight to have authorship or co-authorship of a report?

The movie and book were pretty accurate. Women (“girls,” aka mathematicians) did not have their names included as authors on technical paper in the early days.''

''Did you ever have to go toe-to-toe with them over the numbers?

After a while, they learned to respect my answers because they were always correct.''

M.D. Holloway 01-16-2017 07:35 PM

I've known a lot of scientists (most chemists, few biologists and physicists) and I have never known any to be racists or bigots. A-holes, for sure but only when it came to interpretations of fact. Arrogant to a fault in some cases as well. Science (and math?) seem to be color blind. At least that has been my experience.

mjohnson 01-16-2017 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by M.D. Holloway (Post 9435555)
I've known a lot of scientists (most chemists, few biologists and physicists) and I have never known any to be racists or bigots. A-holes, for sure but only when it came to interpretations of fact. Arrogant to a fault in some cases as well. Science (and math?) seem to be color blind. At least that has been my experience.

20 years at Los Alamos shows the same for me.

Every pig sty has its dirty corners but mostly we're of the "Can you do the job? -- Yes? -- Welcome. Do your job." sort.

Oh, and we're 90% a-hole. So are most of our hires regardless of color or creed...

Looking forward to the movie

sc_rufctr 06-11-2019 04:00 AM

More than two years later... I just watched this with my GF. Great inspiring movie! I'd certainly recommend it.

It didn't follow history 100% but the liberties the film make took were understandable considering the complexity of the story.

kach22i 06-11-2019 04:08 AM

My wife and I saw the movie last year in a college auditorium after a presentation on up and coming technology such a a transparent film that can be applied to windows and generate photovoltaic power.

Good film, reminds us how recently our country has progressed, and maybe we need to show a little patience with the rest of the world while they catch up.

flatbutt 06-11-2019 05:15 AM

Another story that needs to be told is that of Cecelia Payne and Annie Jump-Cannon.

Sooner or later 06-11-2019 05:47 AM

I enjoyed it

flipper35 06-11-2019 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by onevoice (Post 9435294)
Maybe, but probably not. Why didn't he ever mention it in his book.

The general idea of a single person being the go-no go determination flies in the face of everything NASA did, especially if it is asking a person who does calculations, not the person who actually DEVELOPED THE EQUATIONS:rolleyes: Those types of calculations were done by teams of people, and took lots of time.

There were a lot of unsung heroes in the space program, this movie, like most, mixes a lot of interpretation and politics into the "facts"

It is exactly how NASA did things back then. The computer was new and they used people to verify the numbers. She would have done the same calculations the computer did, no need to ask the person that developed the equations.

We saw it in the theaters when it came out. Overall it was a good movie. I was very glad it wasn't a Michael Bay or JJ Abrams film.

911 Rod 06-11-2019 08:15 AM

Netflix?

Bob Kontak 06-11-2019 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by John Rogers (Post 9434871)
That's the way life was. In the 1950's and even into the 1960's race was a particular thing. My home town had a poor black section, poor white section...................

I have mentioned I was an auditor. Kinda weird but I loved to look at old, I mean old, accounting records.

One company had a monthly "Horse and Buggy Maintenance Accrual" in a ledger from the 1920's. $2.50.

Anyhoo... Sniffing through old as dirt hard-copy personnel records, I found a black janitor's file who was hired in the 50's. They put that guy through the ringer. Hired an investigator to tail him and report on his activities. As documented, dude went to church. No bar frequenting. Clean shaven, clean clothes and one woman/family. No suspect activity noted.

Not really ethical for me to be looking at that stuff but was an eye opener. From my perspective it was like looking at the old Radio Shack catalogs thread recently posted. Simply curiosity.

Bob Kontak 06-11-2019 03:45 PM

Watching Hidden Figures tonight.

Bob Kontak 06-12-2019 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 10488596)
Watching Hidden Figures tonight.

Jeez. This thread a a couple years old.

Enjoyed it. Taraji Henson as Katherine Johnson was good.

Mahershala Ali was one of the bad guys in Alita Battle Angel.

Clint Lando 06-12-2019 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by onevoice (Post 9435294)

There were a lot of unsung heroes in the space program, this movie, like most, mixes a lot of interpretation and politics into the "facts"

yes

Clint Lando 06-12-2019 06:25 AM

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Is Kevin Costner's character based on a real person?
Not exactly. In researching the Hidden Figures true story, we learned that Kevin Costner's character, Al Harrison, is based on three different directors at NASA Langley during Katherine Johnson's time at the research facility.


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Did Katherine Johnson feel the segregation of the outside world while working at NASA?

No. "I didn't feel the segregation at NASA, because everybody there was doing research," says the real Katherine G. Johnson. "You had a mission and you worked on it, and it was important to you to do your job...and play bridge at lunch. I didn't feel any segregation. I knew it was there, but I didn't feel it." Even though much of the racism coming from Katherine's coworkers in the movie seems to be largely made up (in real life she claimed to be treated as a peer), the movie's depiction of state laws regarding the use of separate bathrooms, buses, etc. was very real. African-American computers had also been put in the segregated west section of the Langley campus and were dubbed the "West Computers." -WHROTV Interview

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Did they really think Katherine G. Johnson was the janitor there to empty the garbage can?
No. This does not appear in Margot Lee Shetterly's Hidden Figures book, on which the movie is based, and seems to be an element of fiction created by the filmmakers.
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Is Jim Parsons' character, NASA engineer Paul Stafford, based on a real person?
No. In fact-checking the Hidden Figures movie, we learned that white collar statistician Paul Stafford, portrayed by Jim Parsons, is a fictional character
Hidden Figures Movie vs the True Story of Katherine Johnson, NASA

sc_rufctr 02-28-2020 07:08 PM

RIP... :(

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pmax 02-28-2020 08:01 PM

Smart lady.

RIP

JackDidley 02-28-2020 08:37 PM

I am glad I saw this movie. Not sure how much was real but it is a good story. Also, nice to see something, not, CGI.

sc_rufctr 02-28-2020 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JackDidley (Post 10767843)
I am glad I saw this movie. Not sure how much was real but it is a good story. Also, nice to see something, not, CGI.

I couldn't agree more. "Inspirational" doesn't really do it justice.

The idea of rising from humble beginnings and making a real contribution is a well worn path but these ladies did something very rare.
They took what they had and made the most of it.

I've done pretty well in life but I've also lost count of my own squandered opportunities.

pmax 02-29-2020 10:40 AM

One of those increasingly rare movies where one actually learns something from watching them ... well done.

Did it win anything at the Oscars ?

Flat Six 03-02-2020 06:18 AM

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Laneco 03-02-2020 07:00 AM

Love that Flat Six...love that... <3

angela

Tobra 03-02-2020 07:24 AM

Thing I don't like about the docudrama genre is the compulsion to make stuff up to enhance the drama and diminish the documentary part of it.

Shaun @ Tru6 03-02-2020 12:17 PM

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