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look 171 01-19-2017 06:07 PM

Whining sound coming from speaker, help?
 
I have to turn to you clever folks again.

I have a whining sound that seems to be coming from the speakers on my S2000. I check the radio ground and its tight and clean. Strange thing is that it whines little as I rev the motor, but once I let off the gas with it in gear, the whining sound gets loud but as soon as I get it out of gear or press in the clutch, it gets back to the slight sound I had before. This is driving me nuts:mad:. Where do you guys think is coming from. I am sure its a lose ground somewhere, but where to look and what does it have to do with the gear box? Stock radio btw.

look 171 01-19-2017 06:08 PM

Oh, I tried to turn off the radio and the slight whine still there. I do have an amp in there installed by the dealer. check that and the ground is solid and tight.

Por_sha911 01-19-2017 06:25 PM

Had that problem several decades ago when I installed an amp into my car. An RFI filter took care of it.

john70t 01-19-2017 06:29 PM

There is a whatchamacallit inside the alternator for that very purpose.
Also another whatchamacallit in-line on the big wire going into the radio.
Or somewhere about that area.

Hope that helped.

stevej37 01-19-2017 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 9439561)
There is a whatchamacallit inside the alternator for that very purpose.
Also another whatchamacallit in-line on the big wire going into the radio.
Or somewhere about that area.

Hope that helped.


On a S2000?

RANDY P 01-19-2017 06:53 PM

If it just popped up out of nowhere one of two things come to mind:

1)- an RCA cable is pinched somewhere, or partially out of the socket, causing a ground loop.

2)- amp has failed, blown internal ground.

Check for a loose RCA or pinched or cut cable somewhere. Maybe someone ran a screw thru it. Happens.

Disconnect RCA at radio, start car- whine still there (I suspect it will be since it's there radio off)

get another rca- cheap one is fine, plug it in to radio and amp (don't bother routing it nicely- over the seats, whatever) and try again. If it's still there once you plug it in, likely you have a bad amp- internal ground has failed and is grounding thru RCA and radio. Could've popped for numerous reasons, but usually when you hear that kind of noise and the RCA's are OK then it's over.

Check to make sure the speaker connections aren't touching metal somewhere in the doors as well, that will kill the amp.

rusnak 01-19-2017 06:53 PM

I would look for a bad ground from the transmission/ motor to the body.

HardDrive 01-19-2017 07:06 PM

Turn off liberal talk radio?

Baz 01-19-2017 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 9439609)
Turn off liberal talk radio?

LOL....we have a winner! :cool:

john70t 01-19-2017 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 9439587)
On a S2000?

It's 2000 already?
Geez. How time flies. Gotta reset that 12:00 on the VCR.

wdfifteen 01-19-2017 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 9439532)
I have to turn to you clever folks again.

I have a whining sound that seems to be coming from the speakers on my S2000. I check the radio ground and its tight and clean. Strange thing is that it whines little as I rev the motor, but once I let off the gas with it in gear, the whining sound gets loud but as soon as I get it out of gear or press in the clutch, it gets back to the slight sound I had before. This is driving me nuts:mad:. Where do you guys think is coming from.

I had something similar about 20 years ago. Turned out to be my ex wife. I stopped letting her ride with me and the annoying sound went away!

908/930 01-19-2017 08:14 PM

Long shot but how are your engine and trans rubber mounts? any chance one of your mounts is torn and your engine is moving more then it should tugging on some wires. check engine ground cable.

Is the amp wired by the dealer or factory plug in? If wired by the dealer check the wiring.

Gogar 01-19-2017 08:26 PM

Don't rule out an ignition problem in addition to a stereo problem, even if the car is running well.

red-beard 01-19-2017 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 9439609)
Turn off liberal talk radio?

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look 171 01-19-2017 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 9439609)
Turn off liberal talk radio?

Goddarnit. This place is funny. Coffee through my nose

look 171 01-19-2017 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 908/930 (Post 9439675)
Long shot but how are your engine and trans rubber mounts? any chance one of your mounts is torn and your engine is moving more then it should tugging on some wires. check engine ground cable.

Is the amp wired by the dealer or factory plug in? If wired by the dealer check the wiring.

By the dealer long ago. Car has 67000 miles on it. Sound just started about a month ago.

look 171 01-19-2017 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 9439683)
Don't rule out an ignition problem in addition to a stereo problem, even if the car is running well.

what are you thinking? Plug wires?

look 171 01-19-2017 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 9439588)
If it just popped up out of nowhere one of two things come to mind:

1)- an RCA cable is pinched somewhere, or partially out of the socket, causing a ground loop.

2)- amp has failed, blown internal ground.

Check for a loose RCA or pinched or cut cable somewhere. Maybe someone ran a screw thru it. Happens.

Disconnect RCA at radio, start car- whine still there (I suspect it will be since it's there radio off)

get another rca- cheap one is fine, plug it in to radio and amp (don't bother routing it nicely- over the seats, whatever) and try again. If it's still there once you plug it in, likely you have a bad amp- internal ground has failed and is grounding thru RCA and radio. Could've popped for numerous reasons, but usually when you hear that kind of noise and the RCA's are OK then it's over.

Check to make sure the speaker connections aren't touching metal somewhere in the doors as well, that will kill the amp.

I am not sure if its high power output (RCA) or low power (is that what's called?) through those factory plugs? Pinched? Meaning its pinched and worn through its sheathing?

Gogar 01-19-2017 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 9439747)
what are you thinking? Plug wires?

I'm really not sure on a modern car, but for example on our Porsches there was a RF supressor in the engine bay. I suppose something like that could go bad.

Nostril Cheese 01-20-2017 03:58 AM

Ground strap. Hondas typically have it going from the valve cover to the body. Seen it cause this before. They are usually thin gauge and oxidize quickly.

asphaltgambler 01-20-2017 07:36 AM

First thing I would check, the easiest is use a volt meter to check for AC. voltage 'bleed'. Connect a multimeter to your battery, turn the dial to AC - see if there is any AC voltage registered with engine running If so stop, replace alternator, check. If no AC voltage is observed, remove the drivebelt that spins the alternator. Start the engine, rev it and see if the noise goes away. If it does, again replace alt as the brushs may be worn causing arcing( internally).

If it does not - most likely option is ignition related if the whine is relevant to engine speed.

vash 01-20-2017 07:46 AM

zero doubt..grounding issue.

wait..isnt there a resister at the alternator that shields the radio?

908/930 01-20-2017 09:19 AM

Just trying to make sense of why it is more audible when you are decelerating, is it possible that your car has one of these intelligent alternator controllers where it goes into higher charge rate when decelerating? try putting your battery on a charger for a while and then go for a drive and see if it is as bad.

Check and clean battery terminals? How old is your battery?

look 171 01-20-2017 10:24 AM

Battery is brand new, 2 months old. I really hope its just the grounding strap off the valve cover because it driving me nuts, much more then liberal radio:D

look 171 01-20-2017 10:25 AM

Thanks for the help, now I have some trouble shooting to do this weekend. If you can think of any more, don't be shy and let me know.

look 171 01-20-2017 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 908/930 (Post 9440151)
Just trying to make sense of why it is more audible when you are decelerating, is it possible that your car has one of these intelligent alternator controllers where it goes into higher charge rate when decelerating?

Yep, I can't figure it out neither? I have never heard of those controllers, good to know

asphaltgambler 01-21-2017 02:00 PM

Most modern cars have the charging system controlled by the ECM. Depending on the manufacturer, to what end is that task. BMW does kick in high charge rate to aid in engine braking on long descents. Again 2 easiest ways to see if the alt is the contributor A) check for AC voltage B) disconnect drive belt; run and or drive it short distance to see if the issue goes away.

RANDY P 01-21-2017 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 9439748)
I am not sure if its high power output (RCA) or low power (is that what's called?) through those factory plugs? Pinched? Meaning its pinched and worn through its sheathing?

I have no idea why I assumed you have aftermarket sound. maybe when I saw you checked a ground lug.

If that's a factory radio and no amp, radio internal ground is likely burnt.


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