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Bill Douglas 01-21-2017 03:18 PM

THAT'S why I don't have any friends.
 
Porsche drivers are seen as 'unlikeable and disloyal' | Daily Mail Online :D

BK911 01-21-2017 04:01 PM

Not sure I can blame it on the Porsche, I'm just a dk. :)

pwd72s 01-21-2017 04:27 PM

Car "image" is a weird thing. I can say that generally speaking, car guys seem to be friendlier towards me in the Mustang than they were in the 911. I'm not meaning at cars and coffee events, just regular guys coming up to me to talk cars when I'm buying gas, etc.

One guy on the Bullitt posting board had an interesting experience. He & his wife had driven from the snow belt to California to escape winter for a spell. A stranger approached, asked how he liked his Bullitt. The usual 10-15 minutes conversation ensued. As they we parting, he stuck his hand out, introduced himself. The stranger replied; "Chad McQueen".

So, somewhere out there is a Bullitt Mustang with a real McQueen signature on it's dash. ;)

Craig T 01-21-2017 04:54 PM

There's a big difference in peoples attitudes toward old Porsches and newer ones too. When I had the Viper Green long-hood people would come up to me all the time. They'd ask "what year is that" or "cool color". In the 997 Turbo, nobody gives me a second glance. In the long-hood people would wave or give thumbs up the freeway. In the Turbo I get tailgated and cut-off constantly.

It seems the opposite with Porsche owners. The Early 911 Registry and R-Gruppe crowd are the most stuck-up bunch of elitists I've ever met.

stevej37 01-21-2017 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BK911 (Post 9442158)
Not sure I can blame it on the Porsche, I'm just a dk. :)

Ditto!! :)

ckissick 01-21-2017 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig T (Post 9442220)

It seems the opposite with Porsche owners. The Early 911 Registry and R-Gruppe crowd are the most stuck-up bunch of elitists I've ever met.

I don't know about that, but I do know this: the 912 people are the most down to earth group there is, at least among Porsche owners.

rusnak 01-21-2017 11:49 PM

Even if it's a Boxster?

VFR750 01-22-2017 05:35 AM

I have had some truely enjoyable encounters this past year while commuting in my SC. I always have my windows down so I can't ignore comments

Young kid in his car, some filled with freinds, pulls alongside and shouts "what is that?" "What year?"

I answer nicely with a smile. (They have zero exposure to these cars here in the Hartford area. They are just car guys seeing something odd.)

Light turns green, and they shout back a compliment.

I smile even more and thank them.

I do think being in an old SC invites more positive reactions. But driving an old car is more of an event than just getting someplace. So in that regard, I am much more willing to engage in random conversation.

is it just Porsche drivers who are rude? Or just easy to point your finger at the Porsche. What about other marks? If you pulled up to a random person at a gas station and started to ask about how they liked their CRV, they'd be justifiably worried. Or not. Probably depends on many factors that you might never know.

Do these studies confuse correlation with causation?

I also own a 2015 Chevy Colorado. I get questions from random people all the time. It's a very good looking truck and currently very popular. I act just like I do with the SC. Answer questions ask them a few. Exchange pleasantries and move on. I leave the conversation a little happier. I think the other person is a little happier too.

VFR750 01-22-2017 06:00 AM

But maybe I missed the point of the OP and followed a tangent too far.

Were the men just jealous and intimidated by the Porsche owner. Hence less likable. "Competitor" who did better? Do we discount the effort needed, and probably the single mindedness.

Perceived as Less loyal? Was this ever quantified? When was your loyalty compromised by sudden new Porsche ownership? How many times did your ex-friend, aka new Porsche owner, stab you in the back? Numbers please!

Ford Fiesta, So more likable. Do the respondents have more friends with fords than Porsches? Statistically this must be true. So is it really a question?

Does it really matter?

fanaudical 01-22-2017 07:29 AM

I think there is more than "car culture divide" in that article. The study was done at a German university...

Noah930 01-22-2017 10:16 AM

Quote:

Men perceived the Porsche driver as more attractive, flirtier, more intelligent, more ambitious, and having a higher status.
Men?! What about women?! Do women perceive me as such, too?

Worthless study. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Nickshu 01-22-2017 10:24 AM

I my Corvair I get mobbed with people everywhere I take it. Everyone loves the car and wants to talk about it. In the Lotus (which is bright orange) it's about the same... Everyone wants their pictures taken with it.

When I had my 911SC noone ever paid attention to me.... I kinda miss that. Be careful what you wish for LOL!

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Kraftwerk 01-22-2017 09:05 PM

The 914 caused a laugh-riot of love and affection when ever I drove it. Sold it.












.....not as reliable as the rest of this list (below signature) >

Tervuren 01-22-2017 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VFR750 (Post 9442601)
I have had some truely enjoyable encounters this past year while commuting in my SC. I always have my windows down so I can't ignore comments

Young kid in his car, some filled with freinds, pulls alongside and shouts "what is that?" "What year?"

I answer nicely with a smile. (They have zero exposure to these cars here in the Hartford area. They are just car guys seeing something odd.)

Light turns green, and they shout back a compliment.

I smile even more and thank them.

I do think being in an old SC invites more positive reactions. But driving an old car is more of an event than just getting someplace. So in that regard, I am much more willing to engage in random conversation.

is it just Porsche drivers who are rude? Or just easy to point your finger at the Porsche. What about other marks? If you pulled up to a random person at a gas station and started to ask about how they liked their CRV, they'd be justifiably worried. Or not. Probably depends on many factors that you might never know.

Do these studies confuse correlation with causation?

I also own a 2015 Chevy Colorado. I get questions from random people all the time. It's a very good looking truck and currently very popular. I act just like I do with the SC. Answer questions ask them a few. Exchange pleasantries and move on. I leave the conversation a little happier. I think the other person is a little happier too.

The 944, gets a lot of attention if I drive it during hours people are around. Either "That was the car I wanted in high school", or people with no idea what it is.

That former group, makes me think the 944 might get a short lasting bubble market if those wanting in high school all try to get one at once when the kids are done with college and out of the house.

So long as the imitation fuchs are cleaned up nice, it doesn't seem to matter at all that my '86 944 is dented from wrecks before I bought it, or badly needs a new paint job to be presentable. It still gets a stream of "nice car" conversations even in its battered paint and body work.

I drove won a drawing to temporarily take home a 2015 Porsche 911 in October 2015, I was surprised at how that car got noticed, but in a different way, and by a completely different set of people.

I think the reasons people buy Porsche's changed, and because of that, I tend to tune out modern Porsche's when I see them. I did really love the current generation 911 despite my expectations. It'd make a near perfect daily driver.

GH85Carrera 01-23-2017 04:42 AM

Was this survey done by the same research group that said Hillary had a 97% chance of winning?

So many surveys are just totally useless. When any surveyors call me I don't answer or hang up. I figure only only stupid people bother to take surveys so the results of the survey are stupid as well.

Deschodt 01-23-2017 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckissick (Post 9442469)
I don't know about that, but I do know this: the 912 people are the most down to earth group there is, at least among Porsche owners.

Well you can't afford to be a prick while driving a porsche with less hp than a Chevy Aveo ;-) I jest, I had 2 912s and it's a nice community...

My experience with people / long hoods is not all that great, they still see it a Porsche and at best ignore it... The bmw 2002 or the Alfa however draw genuine smiles all the time, the bimmer especially... The porsche brings disdain... And those people don't know I'm a prick !!! ;-)

t-tom 01-23-2017 07:54 AM

You know it's kind of funny, We went to a PCA meeting here in Kansas City a few years ago and not a single person talked to us. It was like we had the plague because we weren't in a new Porsche.

pwd72s 01-23-2017 08:35 AM

Yeats ago, my old Pen Pal Howard Shoemaker wrote; "You can tell there's a PCA dinner meeting by all the Japanese cars in the parking lot."

Craig T 01-23-2017 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t-tom (Post 9444164)
You know it's kind of funny, We went to a PCA meeting here in Kansas City a few years ago and not a single person talked to us. It was like we had the plague because we weren't in a new Porsche.

That's not the case in the Santa Barbara Region. Weekend tours and events have everything from rusty 914's to Carrera GT's and everybody get's along great. It's an even spread across the years and models, with SC's and 996's taking top the bulk of the parking lot.

Fast Freddy 944 01-23-2017 08:47 AM

Drive a 944, I always get thumbs up when I fart around town....


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