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Jeff Higgins 02-19-2017 11:18 AM

Colt Python
 
Dang you guys (my turn to blame all of you for something ;) )... With all this talk about Pythons around here, I finally had to break down and nab another one. This one was my older brother's, which he bought new in about 1981 while he was in the Navy. I've had an "option" on it for years now, so I finally exercised that option and relieved him of it with a little bit of horse trading for some guns he wanted from me.

Anyhoo, here she is. Very lightly used:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1487531882.JPG

timchar 02-19-2017 11:23 AM

That's a beautiful wicked beast.
Tim

Don Ro 02-19-2017 11:24 AM

Nice. What did it take to snag it?

aigel 02-19-2017 11:28 AM

Nice score. I'd really like one. On the local board there was a perfect nickel one from 77 - almost 5k asking. It was gone in less than a day. :eek:

G

Don Ro 02-19-2017 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aigel (Post 9479923)
Nice score. I'd really like one. On the local board there was a perfect nickel one from 77 - almost 5k asking. It was gone in less than a day. :eek:

G

I have one. NIB, never fired, original receipt, etc.
.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/783982-colt-python-357-6-whats-worth.html

Jeff Higgins 02-19-2017 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Ro (Post 9479915)
Nice. What did it take to snag it?

A couple of other handguns, a large sack of small, unmarked non-sequential serial numbered bills, and the threat to tell our mom he was being mean to me if he didn't do it.

Don Ro 02-19-2017 11:36 AM

A true negotiator, you.

:)

aigel 02-19-2017 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Ro (Post 9479931)

You still have it? That would be good, as these have gone up more since you asked in that thread. I'd say 3k+, but no expert. I'd put it on GunBroker with a hefty reserve and see what transpires. I wish you were local, I'd tell you it is worth 1500 and be over with the cash! :)

G

Don Ro 02-19-2017 01:27 PM

At the time of that thread I went on a Colt Python forum to get some feedback.
I rec'd several emails and turned down 3 offers of $5k because I no longer needed nor wanted to sell.
The prices for these are vulgar...to say the least.
These days I'm again considering selling.

Jeff Higgins 02-19-2017 01:51 PM

Quite honestly, guys, the "value" of this thing doesn't mean squat between us. We're brothers. I have two brothers actually, and firearms change hands between us under all kinds of circumstances. Hell, I could have asked to "borrow" this Python and my brother would have just given it to me. We have each other's guns that we have "borrowed" around our little triumvirate thirty years ago that still haven't found their way "home". We very rarely change "ownership" in any kind of a formal manner like we did here. When we do, it's with the understanding that the original owner, if he ever wants it back and the new owner is willing to let it go, it goes back for about the same price, regardless of increase (or decrease) in value. These guns fall into a special "shall not sell outside the family" classification. In other words, I'm not gonna turn around and flip my brother's Python for five or six grand tomorrow. We made our deal with both sides knowing full well what it is worth. If he really needed the money, and really didn't mind it being gone for good, he knows what he could have sold it for. For me to turn around and do that just wouldn't be right. Besides, I'm sure he would tell mom.

aigel 02-19-2017 02:01 PM

Seems like a bubble. If they reach >5k and colt brings out a new line of them, will they tank?

Looks like I am too late to the party. I need a python like a hole in my head. I already have the .357 and similar performing calibers covered ...

G

tabs 02-19-2017 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aigel (Post 9480075)
Seems like a bubble. If they reach >5k and colt brings out a new line of them, will they tank?

Looks like I am too late to the party. I need a python like a hole in my head. I already have the .357 and similar performing calibers covered ...

G

But you want one....bad. :D

tabs 02-19-2017 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 9479901)
Dang you guys (my turn to blame all of you for something ;) )... With all this talk about Pythons around here, I finally had to break down and nab another one. This one was my older brother's, which he bought new in about 1981 while he was in the Navy. I've had an "option" on it for years now, so I finally exercised that option and relieved him of it with a little bit of horse trading for some guns he wanted from me.

Anyhoo, here she is. Very lightly used:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1487531882.JPG

So how many of those bad boy Pony Snakes do you really have when you say, "Another one."

KFC911 02-19-2017 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aigel (Post 9480075)
Seems like a bubble. If they reach >5k and colt brings out a new line of them, will they tank?

Looks like I am too late to the party. I need a python like a hole in my head. I already have the .357 and similar performing calibers covered ...

G

I purchased it's little brother in .22lr the same year...removed it's NIB collector status the following day :). If'n I didn't still have my first....a M27, then.....drool...

Jeff Higgins 02-19-2017 02:21 PM

Sorry, I didn't mean to mislead - "another one" to replace the one I foolishly let go over 20 years ago. This is the only one I have at the moment.

Like Aigel, "I need a Python like a hole in my head". I'll never carry it, I'll never hunt with it, I'll never keep it loaded in the nightstand - its only purpose will be plinking. I have many, many other guns that can do that, plus fill "real" purposes, like concealed carry, hunting, backpacking, day hiking, etc.

But none of them are Pythons...

Seahawk 02-19-2017 02:24 PM

I am NOT opening this thread.

DanielDudley 02-19-2017 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 9480105)
I am NOT opening this thread.

Yeah, I've been getting the itch lately.

Danimal16 02-19-2017 03:01 PM

When did Colt say that they are going to bring them back on the market?

pwd72s 02-19-2017 03:28 PM

Years ago, one of our local P. D. members was a national police pistol champion. Yes, hell of an expert with a wheel gun. Last name was Horton. Anyway, coffee shop BSing..but he preferred to use a Smith over a Python.

Yeah, I know..this has no bearing on the desirability of either as a collectable firearm.

(edit) Old fart confession...this coffee shop conversation was over 40 years ago..

Racerbvd 02-19-2017 05:57 PM

I miss my snake collection

Jeff Higgins 02-19-2017 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 9480183)
Years ago, one of our local P. D. members was a national police pistol champion. Yes, hell of an expert with a wheel gun. Last name was Horton. Anyway, coffee shop BSing..but he preferred to use a Smith over a Python.

Yeah, I know..this has no bearing on the desirability of either as a collectable firearm.

(edit) Old fart confession...this coffee shop conversation was over 40 years ago..

I well remember when wheelguns were the norm, and the endless debate over which double action was "better" - the S&W or the Colt. Colt complicated things by producing distinctly different actions on different models, where S&W pretty much used (uses) the same basic action on all models, just scaling it to fit their different frame sizes. So, it kind of came down to which Colt was being compared to the S&W's. It always seemed to come down to "other than the Python, which is better - Colt or S&W?". The Python was that far ahead of the rest, on either side.

Of course, personal preference plays a role as well. Some folks just don't like the way a Python "stacks" its DA trigger pull. Others prefer it. Neither is inherently "better".

I settled this debate for myself, for my own use, by declaring "none of the above" and developing a real preference for Colt single actions...

Bill Douglas 02-19-2017 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 9480381)
I miss my snake collection

You WHAT? You sold them?

KFC911 02-20-2017 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 9480545)
....It always seemed to come down to "other than the Python, which is better - Colt or S&W?". The Python was that far ahead of the rest, on either side.

Of course, personal preference plays a role as well. Some folks just don't like the way a Python "stacks" its DA trigger pull. Others prefer it. Neither is inherently "better".

I settled this debate for myself, for my own use, by declaring "none of the above" and developing a real preference for Colt single actions...

....and then some folks just like the way BOTH of these classic names perform. Equal mix of both works too :). I've never shot a Colt SA.....

Dang you Higgins....

JTO 02-20-2017 03:56 AM

I have a 2.5" stainless Python. It is sublime. I had Bill Laughridge do his super action job on it ten years ago. Made a great trigger even better.
I too have turned down big offers. My wife gave it to me. It stays in the family.
Troy

KFC911 02-20-2017 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTO (Post 9480720)
I have a 2.5" stainless Python. It is sublime. I had Bill Laughridge do his super action job on it ten years ago. Made a great trigger even better.
I too have turned down big offers. My wife gave it to me. It stays in the family.
Troy

Two keepers worth hanging on too :)!

Vintage Racer 02-20-2017 06:55 AM

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...R/PythonNS.jpg

flatbutt 02-20-2017 09:30 AM

Fortunately for my wallet my hands are no longer able to manage that much power for more than 3 or 4 rounds. .38 yes, .357 big bang no. But it sure is purdy.

Jeff Higgins 02-20-2017 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9480718)
....and then some folks just like the way BOTH of these classic names perform. Equal mix of both works too :). I've never shot a Colt SA.....

Dang you Higgins....

Every growing boy needs at least one Colt SA... ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 9480718)
Fortunately for my wallet my hands are no longer able to manage that much power for more than 3 or 4 rounds. .38 yes, .357 big bang no. But it sure is purdy.

Like K frame S&W's, these are really .38 Specials in which you can occasionally fire .357 magnum ammunition. They won't hold up to a steady diet of it. My favorite load is the RCBS 150 grain SWC cast from wheel weights, lubed with SPG, and seated over 5.0 grains of 231 in .357 mag brass. These do about 950 fps and are a real pleasure to shoot. Very easy on both the gun and the shooter's hand.

tabs 02-20-2017 10:46 AM

If you want to hear a 357 ROAR load em up and put em through a Ruger Red Hawk in 357 magnum.

Jeff Higgins 02-20-2017 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 9481319)
If you want to hear a 357 ROAR load em up and put em through a Ruger Red Hawk in 357 magnum.

I have several Interarms Virginian Dragoons, one of which is a .357 magnum. The most over-built .357 magnum ever made. The cylinder is long enough to allow seating the old Thompson bullet to its bottom crimping groove in full length .357 mag brass. This bullet was originally designed for the .38/44 Outdoorsman, to be used in .38 Special brass so it wasn't too long for the cylinder. Most .357 magnum guns still require that you use .38 Special brass with this bullet, or they come out too long for the cylinder.

The nice thing about these loads is that they simply do not fit Model 19 cylinders, nor will they fit the Python cylinder. They come very close to duplicating the old .357 Maximum loads. They worked pretty good when I was shooting silhouette with this gun, but are otherwise pretty useless. If I feel like I need that much power for hunting, I just grab a .44 or .45.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1487618201.JPG

flatbutt 02-20-2017 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 9481162)
Every growing boy needs at least one Colt SA... ;)



Like K frame S&W's, these are really .38 Specials in which you can occasionally fire .357 magnum ammunition. They won't hold up to a steady diet of it. My favorite load is the RCBS 150 grain SWC cast from wheel weights, lubed with SPG, and seated over 5.0 grains of 231 in .357 mag brass. These do about 950 fps and are a real pleasure to shoot. Very easy on both the gun and the shooter's hand.

yer' killin' me Higgins! ;)


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