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VincentVega 03-02-2017 07:09 PM

I'm not sure if you can really call it a fuse block, but the thing you would expect to see in such a position on my MGB was a work of afterthought. Whenever a random light or motor didnt work the fuel block is the first place to look. Clean the connection and poof, light or motor works. Hit a bump at the wrong speed and you are back to the side of the road cleaning the fuse block. Wire brush, knife, grease... doesnt seem to matter.

Not the end of the world, just part of the charm. I guess.

mistertate 03-02-2017 07:19 PM

My dad's had tons of those silly cars. Recently, on his xjs, he was trying to add ps fluid. Twists and twists at the reservoir cap and it breaks off in his hand. So he calls parts supplier to get the new reservoir and they're all sold out because they're reverse threaded and everybody breaks them like this.

Joe Bob 03-02-2017 07:21 PM

dim head lights, flicker, dead short, FIRE!

VincentVega 03-02-2017 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistertate (Post 9495324)
My dad's had tons of those silly cars. Recently, on his xjs, he was trying to add ps fluid. Twists and twists at the reservoir cap and it breaks off in his hand. So he calls parts supplier to get the new reservoir and they're all sold out because they're reverse threaded and everybody breaks them like this.

too funny

I like most of them because they are usually at just a bit different. Sometimes thats interesting other times.... you are waiting for a part.

fred cook 03-03-2017 06:06 AM

Why do the British drink warm beer? Because they have Lucas refridgerators!

If Britannia rules the waves, why then won't my British car cross a puddle?

Lucas, the prince of darkness!

What do you call an English car with a perfect electrical system? Don't know, never found one!

Fast Freddy 944 03-03-2017 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred cook (Post 9495652)
Why do the British drink warm beer? Because they have Lucas refridgerators!

If Britannia rules the waves, why then won't my British car cross a puddle?

Lucas, the prince of darkness!

What do you call an English car with a perfect electrical system? Don't know, never found one!

I learned a long time ago that Lucas was a businessman that knew if he developed a wiring system that would "break" down, he could scoop up some coinage.;)

Joe Bob 03-03-2017 06:40 AM

The Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."

Lucas denies having invented darkness. But they still claim "sudden, unexpected darkness"

Lucas--inventor of the first intermittent wiper.

Lucas--inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.

The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF.

The other three switch settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE.

Lucas dip-switch positions: LOW and BLOW (Bruce Miller, Welcome to the Hermitage Homepage)

The original anti-theft devices--Lucas Electric products.

"I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have never experienced any prob...

If Lucas made guns, wars would not start either.

Did you hear about the Lucas powered torpedo? It sank.

It's not true that Lucas, in 1947, tried to get Parliament to repeal Ohm's Law. They withdrew their efforts when they met too much resistance.

Did you hear the one about the guy that peeked into a Land Rover and asked the owner "How can you tell one switch from another at night, since they all look the same?" "He replied, it doesn't matter which one you use, nothing happens!"

Back in the '70s Lucas decided to diversify its product line and began manufacturing vacuum cleaners. It was the only product they offered which didn't suck.

Quality Assurance phoned and advised the Lucas engineering guy that they had trouble with his design shorting out. So he made the wires longer.

Why do the English drink warm beer? Lucas made the refrigerators, too.

Alexander Graham Bell invented the Telephone. Thomas Edison invented the Light Bulb. Joseph Lucas invented the Short Circuit.

Recommended procedure before taking on a repair of Lucas equipment: check the position of the stars, kill a chicken and walk three times sunwise around your car chanting: "Oh mighty Prince of Darkness protect your unworthy servant."

Lucas systems actually uses AC current; it just has a random frequency.

How to make AIDS disappear? Give it a Lucas parts number.

Recently, Lucas won out over Bosch to supply the electrical for the new Volkswagens. So, now the cars from the Black Forest will come with electrics supplied by the Lord of Darkness -- how appropriate!

Lucas is an acronym for Loose Unsoldered Connections and Splices.

Fast Freddy 944 03-03-2017 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 9495699)
The Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."

Lucas denies having invented darkness. But they still claim "sudden, unexpected darkness"

Lucas--inventor of the first intermittent wiper.

Lucas--inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.

The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF.

The other three switch settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE.

Lucas dip-switch positions: LOW and BLOW (Bruce Miller, Welcome to the Hermitage Homepage)

The original anti-theft devices--Lucas Electric products.

"I've had a Lucas pacemaker for years and have never experienced any prob...

If Lucas made guns, wars would not start either.

Did you hear about the Lucas powered torpedo? It sank.

It's not true that Lucas, in 1947, tried to get Parliament to repeal Ohm's Law. They withdrew their efforts when they met too much resistance.

Did you hear the one about the guy that peeked into a Land Rover and asked the owner "How can you tell one switch from another at night, since they all look the same?" "He replied, it doesn't matter which one you use, nothing happens!"

Back in the '70s Lucas decided to diversify its product line and began manufacturing vacuum cleaners. It was the only product they offered which didn't suck.

Quality Assurance phoned and advised the Lucas engineering guy that they had trouble with his design shorting out. So he made the wires longer.

Why do the English drink warm beer? Lucas made the refrigerators, too.

Alexander Graham Bell invented the Telephone. Thomas Edison invented the Light Bulb. Joseph Lucas invented the Short Circuit.

Recommended procedure before taking on a repair of Lucas equipment: check the position of the stars, kill a chicken and walk three times sunwise around your car chanting: "Oh mighty Prince of Darkness protect your unworthy servant."

Lucas systems actually uses AC current; it just has a random frequency.

How to make AIDS disappear? Give it a Lucas parts number.

Recently, Lucas won out over Bosch to supply the electrical for the new Volkswagens. So, now the cars from the Black Forest will come with electrics supplied by the Lord of Darkness -- how appropriate!

Lucas is an acronym for Loose Unsoldered Connections and Splices.

Not a Lucas fan huh? LOL, I'm going for a spin in my running 66 MGB, cya!:D;):cool:

Joe Bob 03-03-2017 06:44 AM

Question & Answer Answered On ebay....
Q: I have a fourteen year old son named Lucas who I have caught several times in the back of the garage smoking. Can this item help him to respect a little firm parental intervention and aid him in smoking less...or even stopping altogether?
Jun-09-05
A: Part of the problem may be the fact that you named your son after the Prince Of Darkness. Mayhaps you should be happy that all you have caught him doing in the back of the garage is smoking! My suggestion is: since you already have spoiled him for life with his moniker, you search the 'Bay for a proper Little British Car to restore as a father-and-son project. That way, he'll have a way to fill the idle hours he'd have spent chasing girls had he been named Rocky or something more suitable. Plus, he'll learn first-handed how disgusting smoke can be. Alas, though, not with this unit, because whilst trying to photograph it for a spread in "Popular Ether Technology", it was unfortunately broken. Therefore, the auction must be terminated early. Thanks for the heartwarming interest!

Q: Once I have re-introduced smoke into my TR-2, do you warranty that it's system will resume operating at the speed of dark?
Jun-09-05
A: If you reintroduce the smoke through a microwave oven, you may even go back in time!

Q: I have been very diligent over the years and have maintained the smoke in my Sunbeam's wires perfectly. The problem is that that special Lucas perfume has disappeared from the dash, carpets and seats. In fact, at the last Concours d'Elegance I lost out to a frogeye with period odors. Is the smoke in your kit fresh enough to bring back the OEM smells of burning plastic and bakelite and are you including an adapter to replace same.
Jun-09-05
A: No adapter needed, but have you tried just STARTING that overrestored trailer queen? It might bring back the aroma by itself.

Q: This has been a most informative thread which set me off thinking about wider global environmental changes that have happened since the mid 70's. Could it be that the copious release of smoke from Lucas wiring looms around that time has significantly contributed to the holes in the ozone layer and the onset of global warming? Could it be that, had your excellent device been more available at that time, we could have saved the planet for future generations instead of fighting a rear guard action? Hindsight is such a wonderful thing isn't it.
Jun-09-05
A: Hey- This is a serious site- we're not discussing "junk science" like Global Climate Change!

Q: I have a questions. For some time. My object is to restore a the few pre-Chrysler Rootes Sunbeam Tigers to original factory condition, with ALL the LAT racing options. So far, I have been quite successful, but unaware of your Lucas Smoke Kit. I am perplexed as to it's satistactory application to this original British Classic that Mr. Carroll Shelby has enhanced with a lot of Ford (USA) parts. This includes a large portion, but not all, of the electrics. It is very easy to differentiate between the Lucas Parts and the Ford Parts, as the Ford Parts still work. While we cn admire Mr. Lucas for the development of the intermittent windshield wiper, the self-dimming lighting system, and the colorful turn signal spark generator, it is unclear whether your offering wll work satisfactorily with so much of the electrics originating in the US. Is this device compatible, as the US parts do not show signs of leaking smoke?
Jun-09-05
A: The Lucas smoke may cause failure of the connecting interstices, but the, so will everything else.

Q: Maybe you can help me. I have an old generator that I have suspected of having a metaphysical ozone leak for several years. It’s one of those things I feel I know to be true but cannot prove. Anyway, through an ingenious marriage of a Sharper Image Ionic Breeze air purifier and a breast milk pump, (by the way, both were obtained on ebay) I have devised a way to recharge the ozone that I can smell leaking from the generator. But, you guessed it, when I disconnect the wiring to introduce the replacement ozone I invariably cause a smoke leak. Do you think there is a way to mate our two machines in such a way that I could “kill two birds with a single stone” – if you will.
Jun-09-05
A: That's just wrong.

Q: Can I use this device to replace the smoke in my Alfa Spider? Is Brit smoke the same as Italian smoke?
Jun-09-05
A: Only if it's pre-Bosch.

Q: Will this kit put back ALL the smoke in a 1975 Midget wire harness? Some time ago while driving our 75 Midget smoke began pouring from under the hood, after pulling over, smoke was immediately followed by flames. A HUGE amount of smoke was lost from the wire harness (10 minutes worth before the fire deparment showed up). Your jar appears to be too small to contain the volume of smoke produced by the Midget on that day. Please specify quatity of smoke. PS - Would you know where can get bulk replacment glue on insulation, there is none left on any part of the wire harness under the hood. The harness appears to be intact but is lacking smoke holding insulation. I'm planning on rerouting the main power buss from over top of the fuel line. This way next time I will have smoke, red hot wires without melting thru the fuel line. Thanks in advance.
Jun-09-05
A: You'll need bulk smoke, but I'd try your last suggestion before ordering any. Good luck!

Q: Is this setup on the "metric system" or can it be used universally? I have a MB 380SL but have replaced some of the wirings with U.S. products. Will your product make the transition? Also, are there any EPA limitations on shipping?
Jun-09-05
A: This setup is Whitworth only. sorry.

Q: As you may or may not know, the Japanese 'borrowed' heavily from British designs back in the 50's and 60's. In fact, the Skinner Union carbs on my beloved Datsun 1600 roadster were actualy built by Hitachi under license. Also, most of the electrical devises in early Datsuns were copied from Lucas. That said, do you know if an adapter is available to use the Lucas Kit you offer on a Datsun 1600 or do I need to keep searching for the Hitachi/Mitsubshi version? Thanks, Paul
Jun-09-05
A: It sort of worked in my Datsun 410 Station Wagon, but the lights all shined in instead of out. It was quite disturbing...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1488555864.jpg

Joe Bob 03-03-2017 06:45 AM

Q: Does this unit contain new or re-cycled smoke and will if my 1966 Triumph Bonneville motorcycle?
Jun-09-05
A: This is new, previously un-leaked smoke, as originally installed on your T-120. Have at it!

Q: Would this product fix the Miller dynamo on my motorbike? The smoke got out of it years ago and I am in despair. Having to run a total loss electrical system now. Please, no smart-alec comments about nothing to lose. I have been desparate for a cure for years and will jump at anything. I get so depressed. But I really liked your answers to all the questions. I learned so much. You must be smart. What are some good upgrades for my bike? Should I get a Boyer electronic ignition?
Jun-09-05
A: Probably.

Q: It looks like a self contained, auto smoking, environmentally enclosed, smoke recirculation, multi-smoker bong I created in the late 60s. The only thing missing is the air manifold (from a fish tank set-up) to hook up the individual smoking tubes. Are you sure you didn’t get this idea from me, when we were smoking that wacky tobacco one time? ; > )
Jun-09-05
A: Could be. I can't remember.

Q: I have the idential part but needs the smoke refill cartage, i was told to ring 84433 3-33888444555 or speed dial 666 is that you?
Jun-09-05
A: No, that's that shop in Michigan.

Q: Do you have any idea if the kit will work on Alfa Romeos? My 1963 Giulia has bullet connectors, a Lucas windshield wiper motor, and a variety of other Lucas components. Earlier Alfas had lots more Lucas stuff, such as starter motor and generator, so I imagine it's more suited to them. On a different note, did Alfa's change from Lucas to Bosch signify the end of the of the 'Italian masochistic' era?
Jun-09-05
A: This will work with the Lucas portions. The Bosch change was a misbeggoten effort to work around the simultaneous Italian/British Stevedore Strikes of the early 70s.

Q: HI, JUST HAPPENED ACROSS YOU AUCTION. GREAT ITEM BUT I AM CURIOUS. I DO ARCADE GAME REPAIRS ON THE OLD UPRIGHT ARCADE GAMES. YOU KNOW, PACMAN, DEFENDER, DIGDUG? THE X-Y MONITOR TYPE GAMES SUCH AS BATTLEZONE, STARWARS OR TEMPEST ARE FAMOUSLY KNOWN FOR RELEASING THE X-Y SMOKE FROM THEIR MONITORS. WOULD THIS TOOL BE SUITABLE TO REINTRODUCTION OF MONITOR SMOKE. YOU SEE THE SMOKE IS READILY AVAILABLE ON EBAY BUT THE RECHARGE TOOL IS NOT AS ATARI QUIT OFFERING THEM YEARS AGO. THESE MONITORS ARE QUITE EXPENSIVE TO REPAIR WHEN YOU DONT HAVE THE PROPER SERVICE TOOLS. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THIS WOULD WORK OR WOULD I NEED AN ADAPTOR SUCH AS P/N 2FUB-1269-AR. THANKS.....FRED
Jun-09-05
A: Got me. I got my VIC-20 to run one game of "Hangman" with just a spritz, though.

Q: Enough, enough already! I cannot allow you to perpetuate this lowbrow fraud any longer! Anyone with any knowledge of Lucas products should recognize that the Lucas label art on the jar is wrong for this early version of the smoke kit. And of course, the lid should be black with the valve oriented 180º to the label. The smoke color itself is not original to the early cloth insulated wiring and perhaps even for the early plastic insulation. Bidders beware, this is most certainly a replica, and a poor one at that — possibly from Taiwan. Additionally, the smoke replacement kit was meant to be used only by highly qualified personnel. The dangers of misuse are indescribable - certainly I can't…, but the phrase "gone up in smoke" was born of this process.
Jun-09-05
A: Oh, yeah? well, in the interest of openness, I'm going to place your tirade on the site. That doesn't mean I like it, though.

Joe Bob 03-03-2017 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Freddy 944 (Post 9495710)
Not a Lucas fan huh? LOL, I'm going for a spin in my running 66 MGB, cya!:D;):cool:


A spin? I 'member that, my AH 106 used to regularly break loose and chase it's ass. I also watched a bolus of electricity travel from the battery thru the fuse box and then to a component then go POOF, THEN the fuses blew or melted. POSITIVE ground? WTF....?

I sent in an alternotor to be rebuilt 3 times, DOA on arrival each time....then I noticed they were wound/rebuilt bassackwards.....OH it's an ENGLISH car.....look at the label dip****.....

Oil filters, 8 gallon gas tanks, leaf spring rear suspensions.....geezus you think I learned after the first one but NOOOoooo, I pwned three of them there Devil's spawn. But they did get me laid a lot....the fun of sporty cars....;)

Soren Lorenson 03-03-2017 01:46 PM

Haha this thread turned out to be fun

My little repair is still working. Time for something else to break

Captain Ahab Jr 03-03-2017 02:13 PM

British Engineering can best be measured in world championship wins

British designed and built engine, gearbox, chassis, suspension, aerodynamics, race engineering all located in the heart of England :D
Driver, budget and badge from Germany :)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1488581766.jpg

British aerodynamics in action, rest of car and badge also from Germany
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1488581813.jpg

We try to keep all the best engineering for ourselves and send the crap abroad

Someone needs to start a thread on American Engineering, other than the moon landing you must have something to shout about and be proud of ;)

aschen 03-03-2017 02:36 PM

It once took me 20+ hours of hard labor to replace the blower motor resistor pack in my old elise. It was like the built the car around the 2$ consumable part. I love elise/exige cars but there are definitely hints of intern engineering to be found on various spots of the car.

sc_rufctr 03-03-2017 03:27 PM

More than 20 years ago. Driving along in a brand new "Disco". (Land Rover Discovery) Just starting to relax and getting to know the car.
Hit a bump and the rear window fall out and smashes on the road.

Six months into ownership the alternator fails. The brand new replacement also lasted six months!
I had that car for about 18 months. It went back to the dealership more than 10 times for warranty work.

GH85Carrera 03-03-2017 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aschen (Post 9496440)
It once took me 20+ hours of hard labor to replace the blower motor resistor pack in my old elise. It was like the built the car around the 2$ consumable part. I love elise/exige cars but there are definitely hints of intern engineering to be found on various spots of the car.



Wow. I can change the fan resistor pack on my G body El Camino in two minutes if I dawdle.

Aerkuld 03-03-2017 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Freddy 944 (Post 9495689)
I learned a long time ago that Lucas was a businessman that knew if he developed a wiring system that would "break" down, he could scoop up some coinage.;)

I understand the entertainment value of poking fun at Lucas, but it turns out Joseph Lucas was a very interesting fellow;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucas_Industries

QUOTE:
"In the 1850s, Joseph Lucas, a jobless father of six, sold paraffin oil from a barrow cart around the streets of Hockley. In 1860, he founded the firm that would become Lucas Industries. His 17 year-old son Harry joined the firm around 1872. At first it made general pressed metal merchandise, including plant pot holders, scoops and buckets, and later in 1875 lamps for ships.

Harry Lucas designed a hub lamp for use in a high bicycle in 1879 and named the oil lamp "King of the Road". This name would come to be associated with the manufactured products of Lucas Companies.

In 1902, what had by then become Joseph Lucas Ltd, incorporated in 1898, started making automotive electrical components such as magnetos, alternators, windscreen wipers, horns, lighting, wiring and starter motors. The company started its main growth in 1914 with a contract to supply Morris Motors Limited with electrical equipment. During the First World War Lucas made shells and fuses, as well as electrical equipment for military vehicles. Up until the early 1970s, Lucas was the principal supplier to British manufacturers (such as BSA, Norton and Triumph) of magnetos, dynamos, alternators, switches and other electrical components."

Quite an amazing guy to rise to founder of a major corporation, from of selling paraffin from a hand cart!

Fast Freddy 944 03-03-2017 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 9495737)
A spin? I 'member that, my AH 106 used to regularly break loose and chase it's ass. I also watched a bolus of electricity travel from the battery thru the fuse box and then to a component then go POOF, THEN the fuses blew or melted. POSITIVE ground? WTF....?

I sent in an alternotor to be rebuilt 3 times, DOA on arrival each time....then I noticed they were wound/rebuilt bassackwards.....OH it's an ENGLISH car.....look at the label dip****.....

Oil filters, 8 gallon gas tanks, leaf spring rear suspensions.....geezus you think I learned after the first one but NOOOoooo, I pwned three of them there Devil's spawn. But they did get me laid a lot....the fun of sporty cars....;)

Healys are some nice rides, and you can get some in most sports cars, luckly for the morris mgb, it was a simple change to reverse the polarity from positive to negative ground. The little guy has some power, and it gets 2nd gear chirps from the tires. My 951 when it works, smokes em' down.:D

VincentVega 03-03-2017 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 9496416)
British Engineering can best be measured in world championship wins

British designed and built engine, gearbox, chassis, suspension, aerodynamics, race engineering all located in the heart of England :D
Driver, budget and badge from Germany :)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1488581766.jpg

British aerodynamics in action, rest of car and badge also from Germany
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1488581813.jpg

We try to keep all the best engineering for ourselves and send the crap abroad

Someone needs to start a thread on American Engineering, other than the moon landing you must have something to shout about and be proud of ;)

Good stuff

Was it the assembly line, or the small block v8... where to begin? Or maybe the Cobra, all it needed was a real motor.. :)

petrolhead611 03-04-2017 03:11 AM

At least British cars of that era could go round corners and had good brakes. The US cars were totally u.s.
American made cars didn't exactly cover themselves in glory in Grand Prix racing or Le Mans back then either.Stutz second place was the best effort way back in1929 and that was a French team entry and drivers


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