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motion 03-25-2017 06:31 PM

My new F150 has a tiny little engine in it!
 
Picked up a 2017 F150. You open the hood and you can barely find the motor. I mean, there's all kinds of open space everywhere! Its a little 2.7, but this thing stomps! Blows my old 5.4L trucks away. Its probably faster than my 993!

My wife got a new MBZ with a 2L turbo and I can't even believe how quick that thing is. These new little motors with turbos are pretty impressive.

Tervuren 03-25-2017 06:36 PM

I'm not sure how the long term maintenance would be, but I'd enjoy being given one of the new 4cyl Turbo Mustangs. :)

aigel 03-25-2017 07:00 PM

I test drove that and thought it was very impressive power out of a 2.7 in such a large vehicle. I didn't like the shifting and the body style. The ride could have been better too. I wanted max fuel economy and went with the Ram Ecodiesel. So far so good (2 years). This definitely will save you money on the long drives.

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dafischer 03-25-2017 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 9526140)
I'm not sure how the long term maintenance would be, but I'd enjoy being given one of the new 4cyl Turbo Mustangs. :)

We had a 4cyl. Turbo Mustang last year as a rental in FL. It really got up and went, in Sport mode with the paddle shifters I almost enjoyed an automatic box. Wasn't very thrifty on fuel, however, since I drove it like a rental car.

enzo1 03-25-2017 08:30 PM

A car review I was watching (Mercedes 2017 E Class) agreed with you saying do not underestimate that little 4 cylinder....

BeyGon 03-25-2017 08:44 PM

I just want the little four cylinder in the Caymen

petrolhead611 03-26-2017 12:45 AM

I wonder how long these highly stressed motors will last in everyday driving. ,especislly with unsympathetic drivers who give full beans on a cold engine and who turn the starter and drive straight off before the oil has even had time to reach the top ebd,and who don't idle for 30 seconds after coming off the highway to cool the turbo prior to shut down.

berettafan 03-26-2017 01:32 AM

4 bangers can be cool. Loved the 2.7 in my 01 Tacoma. I'm sure nowhere near the power of motions truck but it was a great match for the little taco. I'd love to drive an old 50's 4 cyl Ferrari.

Something about an agricultural bigger 4 is just enjoyable.


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svandamme 03-26-2017 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 9526229)
I just want the little four cylinder in the Caymen

Why? it sounds like crap!

KFC911 03-26-2017 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by motion (Post 9526135)
Picked up a 2017 F150. You open the hood and you can barely find the motor....

And they're bloated pigs too :(. Can't believe how small my older F150 is when parked next to a newer one....make's mine look like a Ranger....one of my buddies is selling his newer one for that very reason.

Tervuren 03-26-2017 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9526309)
And they're bloated pigs too :(. Can't believe how small my older F150 is when parked next to a newer one....make's mine look like a Ranger....one of my buddies is selling his newer one for that very reason.

I believe regulations create CAFE numbers based on wheel base and track. The larger the truck, the less stringent the rules.

Everything with towing capacity that needs the "umph" is going to get bigger as a result. They have to size the truck to the weakest link in the motor line up.

I'm not sure it applies to cars, but it would also explain why the wheel base and track keep getting larger and larger on the 911.

The other side to larger vehicles, is it gives more space for absorbing crash structure. Big difference here in safety ratings, especially in non frontal crashes.

Tervuren 03-26-2017 04:19 AM

Compare the size of my previous daily driver with my current one. The large size does take a bit of driving fun out of the picture, especially in tight parking lots.


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However, I find people are also no longer running over me as if my car wasn't there. The need for serious evasion from a lane changing vehicle trying to occupy my space isn't a regular thing anymore. If they don't use blinkers, its hard to know if its just a "texting" swerve, or a poorly executed lane change. I picked up some red paint on the front of the 944 that way once. Fortunately, the 944 was already wrecked when I bought it; that one just re-arranged the pre-existing dents.

onewhippedpuppy 03-26-2017 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by petrolhead611 (Post 9526275)
I wonder how long these highly stressed motors will last in everyday driving. ,especislly with unsympathetic drivers who give full beans on a cold engine and who turn the starter and drive straight off before the oil has even had time to reach the top ebd,and who don't idle for 30 seconds after coming off the highway to cool the turbo prior to shut down.

Small displacement turbocharged engines are hardly a new concept. If you abuse any motor it will compromise its life.

I have a 2013 F150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost and a few modifications, the thing is a rocket and an incredible tow vehicle. It drives and tows like a diesel which I love, just an effortless wave of torque.

KNS 03-26-2017 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 9526313)
I believe regulations create CAFE numbers based on wheel base and track. The larger the truck, the less stringent the rules.

Yep, pretty much the same reason the 991 and Boxster are so huge.

ZOO 03-26-2017 07:13 AM

I have 13000 km on our 2.7. I thought I'd miss my BMW sedan for daily driving, but I was wrong. The F150 2.7 is a terrific truck. We haven't had any problems - though the fuel economy goes to hell if you can't keep your right foot discipline.

island911 03-26-2017 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by motion (Post 9526135)
Picked up a 2017 F150. You open the hood and you can barely find the motor. I mean, there's all kinds of open space everywhere! Its a little 2.7, but this thing stomps! Blows my old 5.4L trucks away. Its probably faster than my 993!

My wife got a new MBZ with a 2L turbo and I can't even believe how quick that thing is. These new little motors with turbos are pretty impressive.

In-cylinder Injection and a turbo, I expect. --Ford has been an early adopter of tech. (that ex-boeing guy at the helm)

onewhippedpuppy 03-26-2017 08:41 AM

One tip, adding a set of Bilstein 5100 shocks will improve the ride quality and handling exponentially.

Joe Bob 03-26-2017 09:28 AM

Make sure you let it idle and cool down the turbo before shut off. The oil return line will thank you. BTDT with the wife's Volvo. Killed the turbo and it was a PITA to get to.

BeyGon 03-26-2017 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 9526300)
Why? it sounds like crap!

If it sounds that bad why not just pass it.

ZOO 03-26-2017 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 9526544)
One tip, adding a set of Bilstein 5100 shocks will improve the ride quality and handling exponentially.

I am thinking that this will be my first mod. Unless I go with the Fox 2.0.

billybek 03-26-2017 07:12 PM

I put the Bilsteins on the old GMC as recommended by the braintrust here.
I am glad that I am a good listener on occasion....
Made a huge difference on my truck.

berettafan 03-27-2017 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KNS (Post 9526410)
Yep, pretty much the same reason the 991 and Boxster are so huge.



I had no idea. That is just another reason EPA needs a haircut.


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onewhippedpuppy 03-27-2017 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ZOO (Post 9526718)
I am thinking that this will be my first mod. Unless I go with the Fox 2.0.

A friend of mine has a shop and does a lot of Jeep builds, he has installed Fox shocks and while good, he always says they aren't worth the premium over Bilstein. They also don't last as long, though like Bilsteins you can also have them rebuilt.

JeremyD 03-27-2017 01:50 PM

I've had my F150 for a year now (with the 2.7) and love it. Great gas mileage - comfortable. and better Mileage than the 996 Turbo...


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