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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 9556648)

Good riddance. And all for a spilled drink.

Wasn't Tebow this guy's college roommate? If Tebow couldn't help set him straight, I'm not sure there was ever much hope for this guy.

Saddest part is his kid. Makes me wonder if the kid is better off with or without this sociopath as a parent.

Yes, meyer made Hernandez Tebow's roommate so Tebow could keep an eye on him and be a good influence.
it helped, to an extent.

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Aaron Hernandez worried Tim Tebow and Tom Brady
Future Heisman QB Tebow tried to make peace between Hernandez, bouncer at Gainesville bar before police were called.
Roger Simmons
Orlando Sentinel

Aaron Hernandez's suicide ends the tragic tale of a football player that both Tim Tebow and Tom Brady were worried about.

Tebow and Brady, teammates of Hernandez in college and the NFL, were concerned about Hernandez’s behavior and spoke about it as early as 2011, with Hernandez being described as "a lot to handle." And back in 2007, Tebow was at a Gainesville bar trying to break up a fight involving Hernandez, who was then a 17-year-old freshman.

First, though, in a NFL Films Sound FX video posted on NFL.com, Tebow and Brady are shown talking about Hernandez -- as well as former Florida Gator Brandon Spikes.

“...I’m trying to watch over Aaron and Brandon,” Brady tells Tebow.

“I appreciate that, too, man. They’re good guys,” Tebow responds.

“[Yeah] they’re a lot to handle,” Brady says.

The video is from Dec. 18, 2011, in Denver -- Week 15 of the NFL season, when Brady's New England Patriots defeated the Tebow-led Denver Broncos 41-23. The video includes game highlights as well as Tebow and Brady shaking hands after the game and talking briefly about Hernandez.

The video shows that the two quarterbacks are very friendly, and it's apparent they have had contact with each other off the field. And some of that contact has been to talk about Hernandez and Spikes, a linebacker for the Patriots.

Having concern for Hernandez was nothing new for Tebow, the Heisman-winning quarterback for the Gators while Hernandez was at UF.

In a story we posted in July 2013, police reports show that Hernandez punched a bouncer in the head at The Swamp nightclub, causing a broken ear drum on April 28, 2007.

When a police officer could not find Hernandez at the scene of the altercation around 1 a.m., the report states he interviewed Tebow about it. “Tebow stated that he witnessed the dispute,” the officer wrote. “… Tebow stated that he went over to try to help resolve the conflict.”

Tebow went on to say he urged Hernandez to leave peacefully and tried to make arrangements to pay the bill.

Aaron Hernandez worried Tim Tebow and Tom Brady - Orlando Sentinel

Covering player's bad behavior is SOP among college football coaches.....and has trickled down to the high school level. My sophomore year of high school, half of the football team was expelled for starting a fight with a fraternity. Their previous behavior had been covered for and it escalated to the point that they thought they could break into a frat house during the day with weapons and send several members to the hospital--all because one football player had been ejected from a party at the house the night before for peeing in their shower. This wasn't even a Big 5 conference school. The ironic thing is the school had its best-ever year the next year once the thugs were gone.

College football has become divorced from the rest of the school. Football coaches make more than university presidents. Professors are expected to pass football players, and their bad behavior is swept under the rug.

Hernandez is clearly a bad guy, but he had help getting that bad. His murderous behavior was not a one-off that came out of the blue. He is still associated with an unsolved murder from his time in college.

I guess his lawyer shouldn't have told him to "hang in there"
Too Soon?

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 9556544)

I don't GAFF about his childhood.

I agree.
Think of my curiosity as that of studying a cadaver.

According to Hernandez's mother, his father's death greatly affected him, leading him to rebel against authority figures.[14][15]

Yeah, like those two events are related. He must have gotten a pass on every **** up he ever had so why not one for murder as well.

Suppose the family will file for wrongful death case now.

You are welcome to your opinions but IMHO, this whole saga was a very sad one for everyone all around.....and the ending even sadder.

Still, there's a certain sadness about it. A young man, with a family, who had a chance at some success, throwing it all away.

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Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 9556811)

Still, there's a certain sadness about it. A young man, with a family, who had a chance at some success, throwing it all away.

Some success?
He had the earning potential that was greater than the yearly expenditures for some small towns.....

Sad story where everyone loses. I am not upset with the latest update.

They knew he had issues but overlooked them to get his talents, sort of like hiring a goon for a hockey team.

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Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 9556811)

Still, there's a certain sadness about it. A young man, with a family, who had a chance at some success, throwing it all away.

This ****er basically had the world handed to him!

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On August 27, 2012, the Patriots signed Hernandez to a five-year contract extension, running through 2018. The $12.5 million signing bonus was the largest ever given to an NFL tight end, and the $40 million total was the second-largest extension ever, after teammate Rob Gronkowski's $53 million.

40 mil, to play A GAME!

Ironic that the patriots had the two best tight ends in the game and lost them both, and still won the Superbowl last year (gronk missed half the season and all of post-season due to injury).

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9556928)

40 mil, to play A GAME!

Actually, he's paid that because he brings in television viewership and game attendance. Much like "reality" television, the bigger the train wreck, the more people watching.

Knowing the REASON for something is in NO WAY AN EXCUSE. It is like knowing why your car is making that noise. It gives peace of mind knowing that by putting in 3 quarts of oil the noise stopped.

This Hernadez thing is just another reflection on how amoral and unethical America has become. For MONEY and RATINGS this kid and A LOT of others are given a pass on BAD behavior. Sanctioned mayhem. So for a little more juicy game murder is OK to put up with.

As soon as he was accused, the patriots sent him packing. He could not be a murderer and play football for them.

Was he a punk before that? Obviously.
But i have seen no evidence whatsoever that he was allowed to be a murderer and still play football.

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Patriots release Aaron Hernandez, take salary-cap hit
Lindsay H. Jones, USA TODAY Sports
Published 10:30 a.m. ET June 26, 2013

The New England Patriots ended their silence surrounding Aaron Hernandez's involvement in a homicide investigation when the team released the star tight end Wednesday, less than two hours after Hernandez was led from his North Attleborough, Mass. home in handcuffs.

Regardless of the financial consequences, the team wanted to distance itself from Hernandez, who was charged with the murder of 27-year-old, semi-pro football player Odin Lloyd.

"A young man was murdered last week and we extend our sympathies to the family and friends who mourn his loss. Words cannot express the disappointment we feel knowing that one of our players was arrested as a result of this investigation," the New England Patriots said in a statement. "We realize that law enforcement investigations into this matter are ongoing. We support their efforts and respect the process. At this time, we believe this transaction is simply the right thing to do."

The Patriots drafted Hernandez in the fourth round of the 2010 draft, believing they got a steal of a player with first-round talent whose stock slipped because of off-field character concerns. The team signed him to a long-term contract worth nearly $40 million last August after he excelled in his first two seasons — and also stayed out of any sort of trouble. He had no prior arrests nor suspensions under the NFL's personal conduct policy.

Hernandez has already received a $9.25 million of a $12.5 million signing bonus.

There is language in the Collective Bargaining Agreement that allows teams to nullify contracts and recoup bonus money in the case of incarceration or other off-field transgressions, but Hernandez never missed any football-related activities before he was released.

Had the Patriots' primary concern been about money, it would have made more sense to allow him to remain on the roster while the legal proceedings play out. Had Hernandez been under contract and unable to play because he was in jail or suspended by the league, the Patriots may have been able to save up to $37 million.

"Whatever chance of recouping previously paid bonus may have died when they released him," said Andrew Brandt, a former agent and personnel executive for the Green Bay Packers, who now works as a business analyst for the NFL.

But now the Patriots will likely have to accept a major salary cap hit. On March 17, $1.137 million of Hernandez's $1.2 million salary became guaranteed. He will count a little over $5 million against the 2013 salary cap, which includes a guaranteed base salary of $1.323 million.

A $7.5 million hit against the salary cap comes in 2014 as the three remaining $2.5 million prorated cap charges from his signing bonus are consolidated instead of being spread over the 2014-16 seasons.

The Patriots could try to withhold money owed to Hernandez — like weekly payments owed during the season, or the $3.25 million due next March as part of his deferred signing bonus — and force Hernandez, his agents, lawyers and potentially the NFL Players Association to file a grievance to collect it.

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Originally Posted by legion (Post 9556930)

Actually, he's paid that because he brings in television viewership and game attendance. Much like "reality" television, the bigger the train wreck, the more people watching.

He did that by playing a game. Which he got paid for.
And i don't get the train-wreck tie, he was not playing football when all of this came out.

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 9556793)

You are welcome to your opinions but IMHO, this whole saga was a very sad one for everyone all around.....and the ending even sadder.

His victim, or was it victims, had no comment.

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 9556793)

You are welcome to your opinions but IMHO, this whole saga was a very sad one for everyone all around.....and the ending even sadder.

I agree with Baz on this.

It's only sad because the system protected him more for his football talent than his disregard for personal behavior.