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sc_rufctr 04-21-2017 10:02 PM

Dustless Blasting (for Shaun @ Tru6)
 
Impressive! ...

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Bill Douglas 04-21-2017 11:13 PM

Interesting. Also, not using an acid dip paint removal system you don't have residual chemicals that may effect the final paint.

That's if it really does work like in the youtube....

sc_rufctr 04-22-2017 12:01 AM

Bill, More info here. The Perfect Tool for Removing Any Type of Coating From Any Surface

and the AU site: DUSTLESS BLASTING | ABRASIVE BLASTING

NZ site http://www.dustlessblasting.nz

Bill Douglas 04-22-2017 12:41 AM

Thanks Peter, it is rather interesting (I see a use in the near future...)

Also nice that it uses recycled glass.

ckissick 06-08-2020 04:46 PM

Anyone here use these guys? I'm leaning toward this method. My 912 is a shell on a rotisserie and I don't want to move it to a remote site. That would be a big job. I've been removing paint, rust, undercoat, etc by hand. It's almost free, but will take forever, and there are places I just can't get to without blasting. I don't see much of a downside with this method . I'm trying to DIY almost everything, but there are some things you just have to hire out.

If no one here has used them, I will, then report back. In a few weeks.

Shaun @ Tru6 06-08-2020 05:12 PM

Thanks for posting Peter, that's an interesting set-up. Another cool way to strip cars, the entire body shell is to send it to a place in MI. The bake the shell (everything has been removed) so that paint, undercoating, everything turns to ash. Very slow rise to temp and slow to cool. Then the tub gets e-coated.

TimT 06-08-2020 05:16 PM

Hate to break it to you guys, but abrasive water blasting "hydro-blasting" has been around forever..

The "dust" isn't airborne, it just collects in a slurry around the object you're cleaning...

It keeps the mess closer

Bob Kontak 06-08-2020 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 9560277)
Interesting. Also, not using an acid dip paint removal system you don't have residual chemicals that may effect the final paint.

That's if it really does work like in the youtube....

I'll bet it works. Their 2nd to big boy DB1500 delivers 425 CFM. $97,500.

For home/DIY media blasting you need 15+ CFM. Your little nozzle, and a whole lot of time.

I would drop the grand in a heartbeat.

https://www.dustlessblasting.com/hubfs/DUSTLESSBLASTING.COM/Downloads/Downloadable%20Content/DB%20Price%20List.pdf

Flash rust scares me and "ready for primer" scares me. I like the thoughts of a phosphoric acid dowsing procedure and then epoxy primer. Then wait a week for cure until any mud is applied.

Bill Douglas 06-08-2020 08:55 PM

"Low volume for small
restoration shops,
the extreme hobbyist,
or small cleaning
challenges. "


Extreme hobbyist. I like that. I guess us guys are all extreme hobbyists.

aigel 06-08-2020 10:42 PM

How does this not introduce stress and warp panels? It is just glass bead blasting with water added. Have you ever blasted sheet metal. It will look like a pringle when it is done.

That demo was pretty unrealistic. Nobody would pay a grand to have the outside surfaces of a rust bucket 4 door impala stripped. What is that "owner" going to do next? Bondo and paint? :D

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hcoles 06-09-2020 04:54 AM

I'm thinking after the blasting there are bits of sharp glass in a 20-30 foot radius and also in the crannies of the car. Is that easy to clean up?

LEAKYSEALS951 06-09-2020 05:16 AM

****No trim was harmed in the making of this video****

Mike Andrew 06-09-2020 08:11 AM

Big promos on My Classic Car with Dennis Gage. Had the thought that his show is almost an infomercial for them.
Yes, in my experience glass beading my stuff out in the machine shop, particles can get trapped in tight spots. That said, it is a very effective process for removing rust, paint and a lot of coatings. Also, less harsh than sand blasting. Many of my 911 parts were done in our cabinet before paint, powdercoat, anodize or other plating. One of the downsides of retirement (ain't many) is the loss of access to the resources an aerospace machine shop has to offer for a DIY guy like me.

onewhippedpuppy 06-09-2020 08:49 AM

My Classic Car is an infomercial for many things, part of why I can’t stand it.

unclebilly 06-09-2020 09:39 AM

My former company developed a low cost dust control product for many applications. One of the applications is reducing airborne dust during sand blasting operations.

We tested it and while it didn’t remove all dust, it certainly made a tremendous difference. It didn’t reduce pm10 levels to the point that no breathing apparatus was required per OHS requirements.

If you want more information, PM me and I can make a connection.

asphaltgambler 06-09-2020 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 10897981)
My Classic Car is an infomercial for many things, part of why I can’t stand it.



Which is why I DVR it, after the 'regular' commercials and the 'info-mmercials' there's a solid 9-11 minutes of actual content

stealthn 06-09-2020 11:40 AM

I would rather use dry ice, I have to think water will introduce a rust factor

Bob Kontak 06-09-2020 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aigel (Post 10897556)
That demo was pretty unrealistic. Nobody would pay a grand to have the outside surfaces of a rust bucket 4 door impala stripped. What is that "owner" going to do next? Bondo and paint? :D

I would pay a grand to have that much material removed that quickly given what I have experienced with stripping big vehicles with smaller than needed tools.

That said, the car needed to be gutted and put on a rotisserie prior to the procedure.

asphaltgambler 06-09-2020 12:16 PM

The problem with large projects like a full size car like above is you have to transport it to the place doing the media blasting. Huge difference when the guy comes to you and the mess just falls onto the ground, no real clean-up. A bargain at $1K I'll tell you.

ckissick 06-09-2020 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asphaltgambler (Post 10898274)
The problem with large projects like a full size car like above is you have to transport it to the place doing the media blasting. Huge difference when the guy comes to you and the mess just falls onto the ground, no real clean-up. A bargain at $1K I'll tell you.

That's what I'm thinking. The insides of the rear quarter panels are covered with surface rust. I was twisting myself like a pretzel, even with the car on a rotisserie, with a propane canister and a scraper to get the undercoat off. I wondered how I would ever get the rust off effectively. Then I studied the deep recesses under there, put down the propane canister, and went and had a beer.

If I surround the car with large swaths of visqueen to control the spread of blasting debris, cleanup should be a breeze. Prep will take a while, but that'll be nothing compared to doing the whole job myself with hand tools.


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