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Should I send this text .

I had a customer loose his marbles on my yesterday , over nothing, and it was not my fault. I took care of the problem last night, and was wondering , gee ,what's up his arse.
He comes in this morning cheery as can be . We finished up our business, and bs'd for a little bit. He was super cool.
He gets on his phone, goes out to his car, and when he comes back, he cannot stop sniffling, and wiping his nose, and he is now super ancy. He started to sweat and get all irritated.
I've known this guy since he was probably 15. MId 30's now . I did work for his parents . I like him. He started a business, and he is successful, but on the go all day every day.
I recognize all the signs.
After he left I typed this text but did not send it yet.
" As a friend and an older guy who has been through it , and watched many others go through it, that stuff makes every thing better , till it makes it worse"
If I had to guess, he is probably right about at that part where he thinks he can hold it all together, but starting loose control .
Should I send it ??

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Maybe call him, but not a text.
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Maybe call him, but not a text.
This, obviously is having problems, but is it relationship? Business? Or something else?
IMHO better to talk to him and find out what is going on.

Let me add my wife loves to text, but it often leads to misunderstandings... they say communication is something like 20% words, 30% body language (or facial expression) 50% tone of voice (Those numbers are probably not exact but you get the idea).
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No text. Call him.
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Mid 30's, successful in semi rural PA, always on the go with a potential powder problem?

You are wasting your bandwidth on him. Ask his parents how he is doing.
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Don't send the text. If and only if you do this it should be face to face.

However, I'm with the others that say stay out. You said you've known him since age 15 but you did not say that you are very close friends. That is the key for me. Unless you have that close of a relationship I wouldn't go down that road.
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The thing about texts are is they never disappear from record (admissable), and he could take it the wrong way through his altered mindset. Speaking to him in person, or on the phone will allow you to read the inflection in his voice/look in his eyes, to see if you are getting through to him, or possibly making him mad.
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There was a reason I did not send it . I appreciate it , always smart advice here. I would say we are borderline buddies, but not close . I like the guy, he is a go getter, hopefully , he gets his scheiss together. He already has done pretty well for himself, got a heck of a biz going . Making the $. But you are right, not my biz, or my place....
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This, obviously is having problems, but is it relationship? Business? Or something else?
IMHO better to talk to him and find out what is going on.

Let me add my wife loves to text, but it often leads to misunderstandings... they say communication is something like 20% words, 30% body language (or facial expression) 50% tone of voice (Those numbers are probably not exact but you get the idea).
Do NOT send the text . With emotions scrambled, face to face communication is imperative.

The actual numbers, from a study by A. Mehrabian at UCLA are:
7% words
38% tone of voice and
55% body language , facial expression and eye contact.

All the best
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I would say - call him and just ask if he's OK - that you observed him out of character. Leave it at that. Last time I confronted a very close friend about his opiate( pills) addiction he became very angry.

Its like telling him you saw his wife, with another man at a motel, checking in. Doesn't matter that it's true - YOU will be the one he takes his anger out on even blaming you.

Net result is no one can ' talk' someone out of a problem like that. Ask me.
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You're lucky, he has a chance.

My uncle was an absolute raging a-hole, constantly irritable, chip-on-his shoulder POS. And that was BEFORE he started snorting coke.
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Do NOT send the text . With emotions scrambled, face to face communication is imperative.

The actual numbers, from a study by A. Mehrabian at UCLA are:
7% words
38% tone of voice and
55% body language , facial expression and eye contact.

All the best
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Interesting info. I had no idea the non-literal portion was 93%. I'll have to make youtubes of all my posts. We're gonna need more font colors than green, too.
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There was a reason I did not send it . I appreciate it , always smart advice here. I would say we are borderline buddies, but not close . I like the guy, he is a go getter, hopefully , he gets his scheiss together. He already has done pretty well for himself, got a heck of a biz going . Making the $. But you are right, not my biz, or my place....
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100% spot on.

You made the right decision, Fred.

Proud of you, buddy.

Not just for making the correct decision not to send the text...but for caring so much.

You're a good dude.....
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He's got a chip on his shoulder, and you don't want to be the nearest guy around when it eventually falls off.

I once had a nice tenant/chap staying with us. I'd bent over backwards to keep the place nice and gave him key to garage, let him store stuff free. Benefits etc. He locked himself out and kicked in the door. Oh well. Decent corporate guy otherwise and we were almost friends. Later he moved out into a (overpriced and bad investment) $400k house. la te da big shot guy. Before leaving he decided to kick in a few doors and walls and flip out on me a couple times on the phone. Alcohol and stress was involved I'm sure. I bit my tongue hard and performed impartial professional damage repair service at a fair lower than market rate.
He never apologized and I never learned what his personal beef with me was.
Can't do anything about it.
Don't know. Don't care.
Next in line please!

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