Identify these cars?

[herr_oberst]

[tcar]

1. Borgward Isabella Coupe

2. Hupmobile Skylark (looks like an 810 Cord... used the same body converted to rear wheel drive, no hidden headlights, coffin-nose.)

[masraum]

Originally Posted by tcar

1. Borgward Isabella Coupe

2. Hupmobile Skylark (looks like an 810 Cord... used the same body converted to rear wheel drive, no hidden headlights, coffin-nose.)

Oh sure, you guess the easy, obvious stuff...

[kach22i]

That was quick, I've not seen either one of these cars before.

[herr_oberst]

t-car got one right, one wrong.

[tcar]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

t-car got one right, one wrong.

Hmmm, we have a local here that drives his Hupmobile regularly, takes it to shows.



Pretty sure that's an Isabella, friend's father had one in Albuquerque, this one's a bit customized... what do you think?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borgward_Isabella#/media/File:2015-03-03_Geneva_Motor_Show_3326.JPG

[herr_oberst]

Correct on the Borgward, good call, cuz it's heavily modified the grille is missing that huge ugly diamond and the headlights are missing their chrome surrounds and have been heavily frenched. The stance on this car is really good in person.

You called it a Hup, but it's actually a cousin of the Hup, (and the Cord) it's a 1941 Graham.

Unusual cars to show up at a local hot rod show and shine for sure!!!

[masraum]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

t-car got one right, one wrong.

Originally Posted by tcar

Hmmm, we have a local here that drives his Hupmobile regularly, takes it to shows.



Pretty sure that's an Isabella, friend's father had one in Albuquerque, this one's a bit customized... what do you think?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borgward_Isabella#/media/File:2015-03-03_Geneva_Motor_Show_3326.JPG

I think it's got to be the Hupmobile. It looks VERY much like the Isabella, but it would have to be a pretty heavily modified version, so maybe it's not a modified version, but is something else.

I was wondering if someone picked up the rights to the Isabella after they stopped, but I couldn't find anything but some Mexican and Argentinian versions that were produced later, and I think they looked the same as the original.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

Correct on the Borgward, good call, cuz it's heavily modified the grille is missing that huge ugly diamond and the headlights are missing their chrome surrounds and have been heavily frenched. The stance on this car is really good in person.

You called it a Hup, but it's actually a cousin of the Hup, (and the Cord) it's a 1941 Graham.

Unusual cars to show up at a local hot rod show and shine for sure!!!

Interesting!

[tcar]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

Correct on the Borgward, good call, cuz it's heavily modified the grille is missing that huge ugly diamond and the headlights are missing their chrome surrounds and have been heavily frenched. The stance on this car is really good in person.

You called it a Hup, but it's actually a cousin of the Hup, (and the Cord) it's a 1941 Graham.

You're correct, I'd forgotten that, in fact, the Hupp owner told me that Hupp couldn't build them fast enough, even though they had tons of orders, and that Graham-Paige built most of the Hupmobile bodies, as well as the Graham-Paige version, and after Hupp went out of business, they were all Grahams.

They are identical visually (different engines, trans) and built and sold concurrently, so I'll give myself half credit.

[tcar]

I should know that, I worked for a firm many years ago that did a project for the Graham family...

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by tcar

They are identical visually (different engines, trans) and built and sold concurrently, so I'll give myself half credit.

Absolutely! I only knew that story after I got home from the car show and did some research. You knew off the top of your head, so a tip of the cap from me!

(The Borg makes a much better looking custom, especially with the tasteful mods the owner did. That long fender line is gorgeous!)

[widebody911]

Can I play?

[dafischer]

Muntz Jet. Produced by Earl "Madman" Muntz, whose main biz was making TVs

[ZOO]

I think the Graham-Paige is one of my favourite designs of that era. It looks "right-sized" to me.