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tevake 07-10-2017 01:29 PM

Using motorcycle Jack for engine drop
 
I'm wanting to get something more stable for the job than a Floor Jack and a stack of blocks.
Thinking of getting one of these, anyone had success with this sort of Jack?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1499722078.jpg

Thanks, Richard

ginot912 07-10-2017 01:35 PM

yes, that and a couple of 4x4 3' long does the job for me.

rusnak 07-10-2017 01:38 PM

a 911 engine drop?

Credit for this design belongs to Mr. Fred Cook

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1499722558.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1499722642.jpg

rusnak 07-10-2017 01:41 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1499722826.JPG

sand_man 07-10-2017 01:43 PM

Not that exact one, but that's what I use, assuming this is for a 911. As I've mentioned in other threads on the subject, I jack the car only high enough to work under and get everything disconnected (supported by jack stands). I lower the engine to the floor using the ATV jack, then I use a floor jack on each side of the car to jack the chassis high enough to roll the engine out. With the engine out, I lower the car back down. I don't like to leave the car that high any longer than I need to.

fastfredracing 07-10-2017 01:47 PM

I bought one of those harbor freight jack tables. I love it for 911 drops. It easily holds all the weight of the motor and trans, and is really stable. Once out, I can roll it around the shop, and raise it up to meet my engine stand, or workbench.
I would highly recommend it, I have found tons of other uses for it.
I got lucky, when I went to purchase mine, they only had one left, and it did not work. Store manager offered it to me for $100.00 Got it home, bled it and walla! I've been using it for years now with no issue .
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1499723080.jpg
I use it as a work bench, and it also makes unloading heavy items from my truck a breeze.
The only problem I have is that the handle hits the rear bumper of a 911 about 3 inches before the load is centered perfectly on the table. I just remove the handle when pulling 911 motors. It comes out in 10 seconds with 2 pins .

rusnak 07-10-2017 01:47 PM

^ Sand man, exactly. I use the jack post "lift pad" sold here to raise the car side to side as high as 6-ton jackstands can raise the car while supported on the torsion bar covers. The car is level on stands, and the ATV jack is great. Then with the engine lowered, I lower the front of the car, which raises the rear valance so it'll clear the top of the motor without having to remove it. Then I lower the entire car to a more stable height.

rusnak 07-10-2017 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 9657082)
I bought one of those harbor freight jack tables. I love it for 911 drops. It easily holds all the weight of the motor and trans, and is really stable. Once out, I can roll it around the shop, and raise it up to meet my engine stand, or workbench.
I would highly recommend it, I have found tons of other uses for it.
I got lucky, when I went to purchase mine, they only had one left, and it did not work. Store manager offered it to me for $100.00 Got it home, bled it and walla! I've been using it for years now with no issue .
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1499723080.jpg
I use it as a work bench, and it also makes unloading heavy items from my truck a breeze.
The only problem I have is that the handle hits the rear bumper of a 911 about 3 inches before the load is centered perfectly on the table. I just remove the handle when pulling 911 motors. It comes out in 10 seconds with 2 pins .

That thing would be just the ticket to load my heavy-ass generator or pressure washer back onto the truck while out in the boonies. At home I can just use straps and the forklift.

tevake 07-10-2017 02:00 PM

Yes for a 911 sc. 3.0.
I can see how the ply sheet with the blocks mak a nice match to the engine.

It's the Jack that I'm wondering about. It's 22" from the fixed in place pump mechanisms to the end of the support brackets of the Jack, thats the spacing that concerns me.

What is the Jack under the ply your pics rusnak?

Oh I like that jacking table Fastfred, what do they go for retail? And how low do they go?
Very versatile ��

Cheers Richard

rusnak 07-10-2017 02:03 PM

I used the Sears Craftsman ATV jack. I heard that the HF version of it has good and bad reviews, but the one I have has been really great.

If you need more height, then you can just bolt or screw some more blocks on to the plywood.

fastfredracing 07-10-2017 02:06 PM

They were about 350 retail , but I have had mine for quite some time now. Roughly l10 inches at its lowest point. It is super useful around the shop and garage .

rusnak 07-10-2017 02:11 PM

oof. I guess I'd better start opening my HF coupon emails.

enzo1 07-10-2017 02:17 PM

https://www.harborfreight.com/500-lb-capacity-hydraulic-table-cart-61405.html

fastfredracing 07-10-2017 02:45 PM

Wow that is cheap. Im getting old, maybe my memory is not that sharp anymore, but I thought they were a lot more money than that. Is there a heavier model?
I think mine is 1000 lbs capacity . Pretty sure a dressed air cooled motor is sneaking up on 500 pounds, and I pull them out with the trans , so I would be weary of a 500 lb unit

dad911 07-10-2017 02:52 PM

I didn't like the ATV jack, as I recall the reach was too short.

bleucamaro 07-10-2017 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 9657067)
a 911 engine drop?

Credit for this design belongs to Mr. Fred Cook

That's really cool! I'll keep that in mind for dropping the 964 engine.

I installed the 356 engine just using a floor jack and some towels. I suspect it is significantly lighter.

tevake 07-10-2017 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 9657155)
I didn't like the ATV jack, as I recall the reach was too short.

Thanks, that is my concern about it.

That Jack table would make getting it out from under the car more of a challenge.
But otherwise looks realy good.

Plus I'm moving across the country in a couple of months, so adding that big of a piece will be a strain to pack.

I just put the engine back in not long ago, but have a fuel leak at the front of the engine to sort out. So another drop is called for now. May see if a partial drop will give enough access for the fuel line replacement.

Also are there any good alternatives for fuel lines other than the very expensive oem ones?

I may just do it with the floor Jack this time. And get something better once I'm settled and have a shop space to store it in.

Sure seems a hatch in the fire wall could save a lot of engine drops for little fixes at the front of the engine.

Thanks for the input!

Cheers Richard

VincentVega 07-10-2017 05:23 PM

I've used that jack a few times, works great. Similar to the wood fixture above a small pallet between the jack and engine allows plenty of room.

MBAtarga 07-10-2017 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 9657150)
Wow that is cheap. Im getting old, maybe my memory is not that sharp anymore, but I thought they were a lot more money than that. Is there a heavier model?
I think mine is 1000 lbs capacity . Pretty sure a dressed air cooled motor is sneaking up on 500 pounds, and I pull them out with the trans , so I would be weary of a 500 lb unit

The 1000lb capacity model is on the right hand side of the page - $259.99

https://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lb-Capacity-Hydraulic-Table-Cart-60438.html

Don Ro 07-10-2017 07:23 PM

HF sends out flyers if you're on their mailing list...often 20% off anything.
Sometimes it's 30%.


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