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RKDinOKC 12-09-2017 03:11 AM

Even if you relay thru know good SMTP servers some servers may still block the email because your originating server is still shown to be on a dynamic IP address without a reverse pointer in the email's header. At least that has been my experience when routing outgoing emails thru a known good smtp server for outbound filtering services. My ISP messed up and put my static IPs in a dynamic IP range.

Use outbound scanning service in addition to my server's anti-malware to insure if any of my users get hacked and/or try to send spam or malware they are blocked and I get notified. Which also keeps my mail server off the block lists.

Halm 12-09-2017 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 9842297)
You can't reliably run an outbound mail server on a consumer broadband providers dynamic address.

The IP blocks are known as dynamic and 99% of receiving servers will reject any mail originating from them.

Works for Richard because he pays for a business class address which will be in a known good block.

The way around it is to use known good SMTP servers.

If you want to run your server out of the house dynamic DNS will be fine inbound, usually.

For outbound configure SMTP to use either your broadband provider or gmail,

And if you don't have reverse PTR configured, you'll get bounced, a lot, even from a valid dedicated IP block

Alternatively, as we did for many clients for many years, just add a reputable relay service.

JackDidley 12-15-2017 07:04 AM

My firestick with kodi will be here tomorrow. Not cutting the cord just yet but I droppped HBO to keep the bill down. Pretty sure the firestick will be way better than HBO. Looking forward to seeing some recent movies.

stomachmonkey 12-15-2017 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Halm (Post 9842389)
Alternatively, as we did for many clients for many years, just add a reputable relay service.

I'm a cheap bastard, lol.

But what you say is true.

Most SOHO routers these days even have an area to configure the service which is nice.

wdfifteen 12-15-2017 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 9815772)

No. I looked into it. It will cost and arm and a leg. Check out the barely visible fine print.

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wdfifteen 12-15-2017 08:59 AM

I've been searching for a solution for my new house. There is no cable in the area. Available DSL is "up to 4 mbps." Satellite TV looks like the only entertainment option. I don't know what to do for streaming internet. Hughesnet is the only satellite internet available, at $99/month for 50 gig of data @25mbps. Can't stream much 4k entertainment for that. I'm thinking of going back to my unlimited Verizon data plan and forget streaming.
Anyone have any suggestions?

Baz 12-15-2017 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 9849967)
I've been searching for a solution for my new house. There is no cable in the area. Available DSL is "up to 4 mbps." Satellite TV looks like the only entertainment option. I don't know what to do for streaming internet. Hughesnet is the only satellite internet available, at $99/month for 50 gig of data @25mbps. Can't stream much 4k entertainment for that. I'm thinking of going back to my unlimited Verizon data plan and forget streaming.
Anyone have any suggestions?

Hey Patrick.....no idea about what to do about the streaming, but assume you will at least have a digital antenna to capture OTA TV(?)

https://www.antennaweb.org/

My results:
  • New Smyrna Beach, FL, USA
  • Up to 55 channels from 18 over-the-air stations may be received at this location.

EDIT: When you get the list of stations per your zip code....click on the "Titan TV" icon and it will take you to all the TV channels plus programming guide. Pretty nifty the way they set this up for us 'cord cutters'.....

I'm delighted to see all the channels I usually peruse for the many movies and old TV shows I like to watch! :)

stomachmonkey 12-15-2017 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 9849967)
I've been searching for a solution for my new house. There is no cable in the area. Available DSL is "up to 4 mbps." Satellite TV looks like the only entertainment option. I don't know what to do for streaming internet. Hughesnet is the only satellite internet available, at $99/month for 50 gig of data @25mbps. Can't stream much 4k entertainment for that. I'm thinking of going back to my unlimited Verizon data plan and forget streaming.
Anyone have any suggestions?

With a little planning you can "preload" content.

Netflix allows downloading of most content for "offline" viewing.

So make a list of stuff, when you are in a broadband location grab your list and take the content home.

Disclaimer: Have not done it much myself so it may be less ideal than I'm assuming.

JackDidley 12-17-2017 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JackDidley (Post 9849831)
My firestick with kodi will be here tomorrow. Not cutting the cord just yet but I droppped HBO to keep the bill down. Pretty sure the firestick will be way better than HBO. Looking forward to seeing some recent movies.

Ok, got the Firestick going. Not perfect but it should do what I want. Seems to be, something popular has a bazillion people downloading and the screen freezes. I tried some older movies and TV shows without too much trouble. Still got the occasional screen freeze but got it started back where it left off. I watch a lot late at night so there should be less traffic to compete with. Not bad for the money.

JackDidley 12-17-2017 08:32 AM

Just discovered Modbro app. Streams HBO in real time nicely.:D:D

masraum 12-17-2017 09:25 AM

Just a tiny tidbit of info. In the past, watching Amazon Prime video via an Apple TV was impossible or a pain. I think a week or so ago, an Amazon Prime Video came available on Apple TV, so now you can natively watch Amazon on an Apple TV.

In case anyone is curious, the only way to watch Amazon on an Apple TV before this was if you had an iPhone or iPad, you could watch on that device and then you can send the video from the small device to the Apple TV.

rfuerst911sc 12-21-2017 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by peteremsley (Post 9856364)
So I think I'm about to ditch the $130 a month Direct TV and go with the sling combined package. Seems it will give us all the channels we need for $39 a month. I have a couple of TVs in the kids rooms that aren't smart so I need some kind of WIFI receiver. Roku or Amazon Fire Stick? Something else?

Fire stick has the best reviews on Amazon... imagine.

When we signed up with Sling they were offering Roku devices for free and/or reduced pricing so check into that . We currently have two TV's on Roku sticks and one on the Roku 2 box . To be honest I see no value in spending more for the " box " as the sticks seem to be as good or better . All of our TV's are flat screen but none are smart versions . We use our Windstream DSL wifi router and it all plays together fine . If our DSL provider was a little faster our experience would be darn near perfect , we do get some buffering but most of the time it is temporary ( 5 - 10 seconds ) but sometimes longer than that . The technology will continue to get better I believe .

Baz 12-26-2017 02:35 PM

I'm just waiting for college football season to end and then will get rid of everything except Internet.

I hooked up an very inexpensive indoor digital leaf antenna to my smallest TV and it gets most of what I want to watch until football starts back up next fall.

Here's what I'm watching right now......on every day at 6pm!

Great picture and for free!

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stomachmonkey 12-26-2017 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 9856376)
When we signed up with Sling they were offering Roku devices for free and/or reduced pricing so check into that . We currently have two TV's on Roku sticks and one on the Roku 2 box . To be honest I see no value in spending more for the " box " as the sticks seem to be as good or better . All of our TV's are flat screen but none are smart versions . We use our Windstream DSL wifi router and it all plays together fine . If our DSL provider was a little faster our experience would be darn near perfect , we do get some buffering but most of the time it is temporary ( 5 - 10 seconds ) but sometimes longer than that . The technology will continue to get better I believe .

Yeah you need to watch what you use Sling on.

It's not the same app on every platform.

Right now the only platform that has a traditional grid based guide is their AIRTV Live Player and Android boxes.

I reached out to them to get the schedule for rolling grid guide out to other platforms and go the standard, "we are working to bring new features to all our platforms" which in development speak means, it's a low priority and we'll get to it when we get to it.

rockfan4 02-12-2018 06:58 PM

OK, I'm doing this.
I was talking to a co-worker, his 2 year bundle with charter was ending, he called them and they continued the deal.
My 2 years is up this month, I called them, no deal. They want another $35/month, that's it. If nothing else I'll go without for a long enough time that I can come back as a new customer and get the deal again.

I looked at Sling and I'm disappointed. For all their commercials about "get picky with your TV", they don't seem very picky. Pick blue, or orange, or both. Maybe I want some of blue, a couple of orange, why can't I have that?

I'm finally switching the home phone to a cell phone as well. I must be one of the last to do this, as the local phone book is now about the thickness of a magazine. I've had a pay as you go cell phone for the last 15 years and never really used it except when traveling.

Instrument 41 02-12-2018 07:59 PM

I cut the cord in October and have a ROKU stick. Keep in mind if you cancel Direct TV you will have a early disconnect fee. The biggest hassle we had, now getting over it, is that there are some network programs you may not be able to get. The CBS app , for us, is the only one that allows you to watch live TV. The others rely on you having a TV provider. We live to far out to utilize a digital antennae. But now that we are on the "other side" I'll never go back to Direct TV and/or cable.

peppy 02-13-2018 08:16 AM

We use sling and get different channels at different places. In VA I don't get any live local channels, but in NC we get the local ABC channel.
Sling really works if you have more than one location.

daepp 02-13-2018 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Instrument 41 (Post 9924018)
I cut the cord in October and have a ROKU stick... But now that we are on the "other side" I'll never go back to Direct TV and/or cable.

I'm curious how you get internet access?

Instrument 41 02-13-2018 03:20 PM

We have ATT internet.

daepp 02-13-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Instrument 41 (Post 9925065)
We have ATT internet.

So is that DSL?

dad911 03-16-2018 10:55 AM

Severed, not cut.

Comcast/Xfinity

Free AppleTV w/3 months of directtvnow.......$105..... check
Buy new cable modem to save $10/month lease.... $100.... check
Call to cancel TV plan and set up new modem..... not quite.....

for $4 more per month than just the internet service, we still have 1 cable box. And HBO.

can swap between HBO and Showtime anytime.

So we save over $100/month, now have hi-def streaming boxes(AppleTV & Amazon FireTV), still get a premium channel, and live tv.

Way ahead... but I can't quite claim a victory.

Baz 04-04-2018 07:27 PM

This afternoon I finally got around to working with my leaf antenna to get better reception. I added some extra cable so I could extend it over to the other side (west) of the room which is the side of the house facing all the stations that broadcast.

The difference that made is amazing. Not only am I picking up even more stations...they are now coming in perfectly clear.

I have this antenna hooked up to a TV next to my computer desk without any other input. So everything I am getting is 100% free, with the exception of the electricity used and the initial cost of the TV and antenna, of course.

This is very encouraging - to know that even without any streaming content - I still have quite a few options for viewing content!

Right now I have some station on called "Charge" and they're airing the classic De Palma classic "Blow Out" from 1981. It was (and still is) a great movie!

Anyway.....the main point of this post is to encourage you to work with your leaf antenna doing whatever is necessary to give yourself the best reception. There are a few things that really make a big difference!

Here's one webpage that offers suggestions and there are more if you search for them.

rfuerst911sc 11-02-2018 03:31 AM

An update: So my wife and I have been using Roku devices for several years now , first with AT&T as the internet provider and now with Windstream DSL as our internet provider . Really no complaints on the speed of either so a fairly stable baseline . We started off with the basic Sling package orange then added blue , if memory serves me right that was about 39.99 a month . My wife is an avid TV watcher so we eventually added the TCM package , the CBS all access and the basic Hulu which brought us to $63.96 per month . Our only real complaint was not having NBC + ABC programming but we did not want to add those to Sling it would have been more than we wanted to pay .

A guy I work with recently signed up for Hulu Live and was talking about how much he liked it so I decided to look into this . For $39.99 a month you get about 60 channels and it includes CBS/ABC/NBC for no extra charge plus 50 hours of DVR cloud recording . We have 5 TV's currently hooked up of which 2 are in bedrooms that only get used when guests/family stay over . But the wife insists on having all TV's ready to go :rolleyes: so we will add the " unlimited screens " option for 14.99 so our total price per month will be $54.98 we will save about 10.00 a month over our current package . We signed up yesterday for the free 7 day Hulu live and so far like the channel selection and speed/performance/clarity . It also has a very impressive line up of sports channels so should be good for what I like to watch .

Sorry for the long post just wanted to give an update from someone that has been using long term to hopefully help others . We find Sling's user interface/guide much more cable like so it's an easy transition from cable . The Hulu interface is just different but we'll get used to it . Slings lack of ABC/CBS/NBC as part of their basic package along with no included DVR recording is the main reason we are switching . SmileWavy

widebody911 07-21-2019 06:20 PM

Resurrecting a dormant thread.

The wife is annoyed with the current CBS spat, so it's time to re-visit cutting the cord. I'm looking for a good digital antenna + DVR combo. I figure the cost of these would be less-than-or-equal-to 2 months of TV service.

Baz 07-22-2019 04:50 AM

Lot of information here and links to previous threads on the first page, of course.

On another forum that I frequent, it appears for those wishing to stream that You Tube TV has become quite popular as an option.

dad911 07-22-2019 08:32 AM

You can stream CBS on locast.org for free. I still have basic Infinity, but use PlutoTV (also free) more.

bivenator 07-22-2019 09:00 AM

Pluto is a interesting option. Free, so the price is right. It has a lot of niche programming including some car channels. Worth spending a few minutes exploring.

mattdavis11 07-22-2019 04:54 PM

I semi cut the cord last November, still have internet with Spectrum ($50 mo.) The Vizio display gets me Pluto tv, or it was a display, they sent down a update upgrading it into a smart tv for free, but no tuner.

The antennae was a Christmas gift, ONN 4K HD motorized, the tuner is a cheapo RCA with flash drive receptacle for DVR, all from wally world. Probably $100 total if that. I live 55 miles south of Austin and 40 miles east of San Antonio, and the antennae picks up nearly all of both cities when I leave it pointing in one direction. 63 channels, but some are the same.

She has a subscription with netflix for her kids (1 here, 2 away), I don't use it, but she does now and then. The Vizio also has the smart cast feature so we can watch pretty much anything on the net with a tablet or smart phone, even porn.

Saves me about $100 a month, maybe more. I forget what the last bill was, in the $200 range I think, but that was after an offer expired.

Right now All In The Family is on get tv, it's awesome!

biosurfer1 07-22-2019 05:51 PM

Cutting the cord becomes less and less attractive every day.

I pay $120/month for every channel I want and internet for 3 TV's. I've looked into cutting but once you add internet, which is at least $40/month, plus $15 for this, $20 for that and add in that almost daily Netflix is losing another set of shows since Disney is going to their own and countless others are.

Pretty soon it will be the same price or more expensive than cable...either way, seems like we lose🤔

widebody911 07-22-2019 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by biosurfer1 (Post 10533288)
Cutting the cord becomes less and less attractive every day.

I pay $120/month for every channel I want and internet for 3 TV's. I've looked into cutting but once you add internet, which is at least $40/month, plus $15 for this, $20 for that and add in that almost daily Netflix is losing another set of shows since Disney is going to their own and countless others are.

Pretty soon it will be the same price or more expensive than cable...either way, seems like we lose🤔

And I'm seeing certain providers charging more for internet if you don't subscribe to the TV and landline packages.

Nordwest 07-23-2019 08:06 AM

The best thing about cutting the cord is never seeing that "MY Pillow" guy again....

dad911 07-24-2019 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bivenator (Post 10532764)
Pluto is a interesting option. Free, so the price is right. It has a lot of niche programming including some car channels. Worth spending a few minutes exploring.

Right now watching "Senna Vs Brundle" on channel 561

astrochex 08-24-2019 05:28 AM

Looking at roku. For channels like NBCSN an The Food Network, it appears I still need a cable subscription. Is this correct?

Ronbo 08-24-2019 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 10569212)
Looking at roku. For channels like NBCSN an The Food Network, it appears I still need a cable subscription. Is this correct?



Both channels are included with YouTube TV.


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rfuerst911sc 08-24-2019 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 10569212)
Looking at roku. For channels like NBCSN an The Food Network, it appears I still need a cable subscription. Is this correct?

We access Hulu live using Roku devices on our TV's . NBCSN and The Food Network are both part of Hulu live.

Tobra 08-24-2019 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 10533354)
And I'm seeing certain providers charging more for internet if you don't subscribe to the TV and landline packages.

Yeah, they do that

I made a ghetto coat hanger antenna out of a scrap of wood, couple hangers and little coax converter thing that was about $5. Shocking how good the reception is with it in the window facing West. Get at least 2 dozen channels. You could probably rig an old computer to run as a DVR

Superman 08-24-2019 05:03 PM

I have had Internet only for at least ten years. Perfectly content.


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