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MRM 08-30-2017 05:07 PM

This much rain in a single storm had never happened in recorded history, so I'd let the engineers off a little bit for not designing the city to absorb that much water. There is only so
Much you can do on a relatively flat landscape.

cabmandone 08-30-2017 05:23 PM

I blame Mother Nature.
Does that make me a misogynist?

KFC911 08-30-2017 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRM (Post 9720907)
This much rain in a single storm had never happened in recorded history, so I'd let the engineers off a little bit for not designing the city to absorb that much water. There is only so
Much you can do on a relatively flat landscape.

While there is some truth to this, over developing, and removing most of the wetlands in an area comes with a price imo. There is no free lunch when Mother Nature is serving...

sc_rufctr 08-30-2017 05:59 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1504144771.jpg

greglepore 08-30-2017 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRM (Post 9720907)
This much rain in a single storm had never happened in recorded history, so I'd let the engineers off a little bit for not designing the city to absorb that much water. There is only so
Much you can do on a relatively flat landscape.

Yes, lets blame God.

That pic of billions of dollars in wrecked aircraft is staggering. Is there a market for "flood planes "?

sc_rufctr 08-30-2017 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by greglepore (Post 9720985)
Yes, lets blame God.

That pic of billions of dollars in wrecked aircraft is staggering. Is there a market for "flood planes "?

Nothing a power wash wouldn't fix ;)

911boost 08-30-2017 06:16 PM

Airport picture is fake.

rcecale 08-30-2017 06:38 PM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/SiZVrTaC9Pg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Randy

widebody911 08-30-2017 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BSiple (Post 9720998)
Airport picture is fake.

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sc_rufctr 08-30-2017 08:52 PM

Oops... :/

jyl 08-30-2017 09:02 PM

I don't think any single person or decision is to blame. I think it is a combination of very very unusual weather, warming Gulf Coast waters, development in flood plains, inadequate flood insurance and information about same, loss of wetlands, and other big and small factors.

There will be time to figure out how to prevent "the next time", and the answer may well be there is no way to do.

Bill Douglas 08-30-2017 09:42 PM

Yep.



This once in a hundred years stuff happens all the time now.








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Jrboulder 08-30-2017 10:07 PM

It seems to me that Houston doesn't have adequate infrastructure to deal with far more frequent rain events.

RKDinOKC 08-31-2017 03:00 AM

Remember watching a documentary about the mississippi river basin and watershed. It talked about the water management in the delta and protecting what they could of New Orleans. AND that there was not enough capacity for the watershed and how the engineers had to decide each year what area of the watershed to hold back and then flood to keep from flooding New Orleans. I can't imagine the engineers having enough control over the rainfall to actually regulate that as well as they would like. But I would be they did what they could to minimize the impact throughout the watershed for those areas.

Lund 08-31-2017 03:00 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1504177189.JPG

onewhippedpuppy 08-31-2017 03:17 AM

Al Gore. Duh.

Borders Reivers 08-31-2017 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 9720552)
This may not have made a TON of difference, but it would've been smart if all the reservoirs in the projected area had been drawn way down by Tuesday or so... maybe sooner.

All the top weather models were saying the two high pressure areas were definitely going to make Harvey stall out and sit there for a LONG time.

You do not comprehend what 52 inches of rain falling in such a short time across such a large area means. The cubic acre-feet of runoff water is staggering. Lowering lake levels would not have made one iota of difference.

Texas lake levels
Lake Levels in Texas, United States

legion 08-31-2017 05:01 AM

When I lived in Georgia, they didn't have snow plows. Why? Because it was cheaper to let the snow melt when it snowed--even with the loss of economic activity--than to maintain a fleet of vehicles that was only used once a decade.

Similarly, it is probably cheaper to have buildings and infrastructure designed to current standards and rebuild when this happens than to design those things to be able to deal with 52" of rain in 72 hours.

Crowbob 08-31-2017 05:19 AM

I'm pretty sure it's Bush's fault.

M.D. Holloway 08-31-2017 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 9720542)
They brought this on themselves for voting for Trump...

Melania's shoes...


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