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ckelly78z 10-20-2017 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 9781105)
As it says on Joebob's dashboard: "Don't do anything stupid!" ... And you'll be fine.
It is definately the other distacted drivers on the road, not my decision making, that give me pause for riding on the streets....this is why I like trail bikes/enduros.

1990C4S 10-20-2017 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DanielDudley (Post 9783658)
As I get older, I see my cars as less like a hobby, and more like a mental obsession. But if you love cars, you will find that your enthusiasm spreads around you, and you will be known for your passion. At some point, cars will start to come to you if your enthusiasm is strong enough. Once you get to that point, turning them down becomes the hard part, and that's where the obsession comes in.

In the last week, I saw a running 928 5 speed for sale for 4400 dollars. Last fall I saw a 400 HP Vette go for 4000. Boxsters routinely go for under 9 grand, supercharged Miatas for under 7, and V8 Mustangs can still be had for under 5, with nice 2006 V8s going for around 10.

People tell me that there is no more magic in the world, and make a great case of presenting the evidence. I say that is bunkum. You can't ever see a rainbow if you keep glumly staring at the ground. You have to pick your head up and look around. There it is... I work with a guy who says that if he wasn't getting paid, he would still come to work. Well, cars are just my hobby at this point, and if people don't pay me to work on them, I would still play with them, even if I had to pay for the privilege. It's a choice.

Porsches have never been cheap. Some are more affordable to buy into I guess, but they have always wiped their asses with thousand dollar bills. That hasn't changed. I'm the one who would rather sit with a coffee and type on the computer than go out on a cold morning and smell the fresh air.

Life. Use it while you still can, and maybe there will be Porsches in Heaven if you are lucky. The other side of that coin though is that they are probably also in Hell, if you make it so.

Let's do some living. With cars, while we are at it, while we still can.
Well said.

JeremyD 10-20-2017 05:45 AM
$3K locally

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1508507130.jpg

notfarnow 10-20-2017 06:09 AM
Agree 100%

I got my 964 c4 in 2012 for 21,500... it was a *mint* 60k car. I drove the snot out of it for 3-4 years and sold it at a significant gain

I got my euro SC in 2013 for (cough) 7k... it was (is) REALLY rough but had a rebuilt engine (930-10) and I've since rebuilt the transmission. It's ratty, but super fun. I'll never sell it.

I just picked up my 996 c4s a few weeks ago, definitely at the "bargain" end of the spectrum. Going to do brakes, clutch and IMSB over the winter. I may keep it, but I'm keeping an eye on prices and may sell too. It's a fantastic car but I don't LOVe it... maybe it will grow on me

I still see some really cool cars in the <10k range:
- big 60's convertibles (Galaxies, Caddies, etc)
- VW cabrios & mk2 GTIs
- Alfa spiders... I'm tempted to stuff a warehouse full of these. They are ridiculously undervalued

scottmandue 10-20-2017 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 9783813)
My friend flipped his and now is a quadriplegic... does that help?

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Originally Posted by DanielDudley (Post 9783658)
Life. Use it while you still can, and maybe there will be Porsches in Heaven if you are lucky.

Let's do some living. With cars, while we are at it, while we still can.
Well, as we get older our priority's change... paying off the mortgage so you can live out your final decades stress free is a pretty cool idea too.

however I reserve the right to do something immature and try to put aside $10-20K so I can have another fun car if I possible... the $5-10K mustang's look interesting, but I really would like independent rear suspension... $10-20 will put me in 996 territory (if they don't start going up). I would be okay with a Corvette but my wife hates them. Then there is the Japanese option...

DanielDudley 10-20-2017 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 9783813)
I keep thinking a supercharged model would serve...

sugarwood 10-20-2017 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 9784219)
the $5-10K mustang's look interesting, but I really would like independent rear suspension... ..
Why? Are you planning on off-roading ?

slow&rusty 10-21-2017 04:59 AM
The only way that late model 3000GT is $3k is if it has a blown motor

widebody911 10-21-2017 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by slow&rusty (Post 9781139)
Its the other idiots on their IPhones that make bike riders organ donors...
It's the idiot bikers that make themselves organ donors

scottmandue 10-21-2017 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 9784724)
Why? Are you planning on off-roading ?
Try going fast around a corner and hitting a pot hole then get back to me.

sugarwood 10-21-2017 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 9785726)
Try going fast around a corner and hitting a pot hole then get back to me.
Might be a while.
There are two potholes in my area that I know of.

JeremyD 10-21-2017 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by slow&rusty (Post 9785251)
The only way that late model 3000GT is $3k is if it has a blown motor
https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1994-mitsubishi-3000-gt/6338065980.html

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/mitsubishi-3000-gt-sl-needs/6344925268.html

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1999-mitsubishi-3000gt-3000obo/6338316690.html

DanielDudley 10-22-2017 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 9785726)
Try going fast around a corner and hitting a pot hole then get back to me.
Yeah, but a truck with leaf springs is going to take that much differently than a solid axle on coils with a four link setup and a panhard rod.

onewhippedpuppy 10-22-2017 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 9783813)
There's one near me with a Blacktop swap, ITBs, full suspension, and it looks reasonably clean. For $4k. Please buy it so I don't, because I keep thinking about 8,000 RPM with ITBs and only a foam air filter.

look 171 10-22-2017 08:20 PM
I had one of those first gen, Mr2 back in college. One of my all time favorite sports cars. I pay 5200 bucks for it with 50,000 miles on it. The guy bought his wife a new BMW and let the MR2 go for dirt cheap. I turned around and sold it after 7 years of playing with the thing and did nothing other then brakes and tires and sold it with 90,000 on the odo to a friends of my dad's for 850.00 because I jsut bought a 3000 GT VR4. Dumbest thing I had ever done.

The Mr2 is one hell of a sports car. Durable too. I used to beat on that lil' thing. I don't think that blue is factory color?

If you like cars, try and buy and play with them because one day, you wouldn't be able to drive them anymore or better yet, they just might drive themselves. Other then Porsches, Japanese car is the natural path, or back to my roots. Used to play with them because they were affordable for poor bastards like me.

onewhippedpuppy 10-23-2017 03:46 AM
Same here, my first cars were all Japanese because I was poor! After several pickups for my lawn mowing, I bought a 240SX and my dad had a 200SX (the 1980s RWD one). They convinced me of the joy of RWD and manual transmissions. Neither was fast but they were light, tossable, fun, and tough.

Halm 12-02-2017 04:16 AM
Ok, I was thinking about this “cheaper but still fun” thing for some time. This thread kind of catalyzed it. After months of research and looking, I found a 1985 GSL-SE an hour and half from me.

By all appearances it is in remarkably good shape, just a few issues I can find. Going to the dealer for a PPI, be what it may, and especially looking for hidden rust.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1512220123.jpg

If all goes well, I'll do a quick summary of initial ownership in a couple of weeks.

BTW, the SC goes nowhere. It is too much a member of the family to consider selling. :)

KNS 12-02-2017 04:59 AM
^^Love the 1st gen RX-7s! A friend used to have one, it’s a car I’ve always admired. If I had the space I’d probably be looking for one myself - such lovey, clean lines. Good Luck!

tabs 12-02-2017 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 9767982)
And that 'non-existent' inflation. Don't forget that.
The ignorance of denial. I watch spoon prices religiously. People want hard assets and not the worthless paper the government tells you has value. Look at the prices of consumer goods produced by the global economy of scale, those have not risen.

pavulon 12-02-2017 06:05 AM
I owned a GSL for years and had swapped an SE suspension and wheels onto it. Mine was a reliable and fun car but the engine had NO torque...which really limited its entertainment value. The 13B should be better than the 12A but I've never driven an SE. I sometimes wondered if there would be room for an LS but would rather see a turbo'd 13B (or a ported Cosmo 20B!!).

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Originally Posted by Halm (Post 9834124)
Ok, I was thinking about this “cheaper but still fun” thing for some time. This thread kind of catalyzed it. After months of research and looking, I found a 1985 GSL-SE an hour and half from me.

By all appearances it is in remarkably good shape, just a few issues I can find. Going to the dealer for a PPI, be what it may, and especially looking for hidden rust.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1512220123.jpg

If all goes well, I do a quick summary of initial ownership in a couple of weeks.

BTW, the SC goes nowhere. It is too much a member of the family to consider selling. :)


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