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Reiver 10-11-2017 07:52 AM

AZ porschekid

explain this to me please....

"And the fact that those who serve are bottom of the barrel of society..."

berettafan 10-11-2017 07:59 AM

I'm unclear as to why money should be given to someone with PTSD?

Counseling would be more appropriate no?

masraum 10-11-2017 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 9770101)
I told him on the phone I would not vouch for him.

I generally agree with Shaun but "dobbing someone in" is frowned upon in Australia. It's hard to explain. It's a cultural thing.

Yeah, being a snitch is frowned upon here too...
by the dishonest.

Lots of folks will use peer pressure to get away with things that they shouldn't.
What if he robbed someone's home or business? What if he robbed someone while holding them with some sort of weapon (knife, gun), what if he raped a drunk girl or killed someone? When is it OK and when isn't it.
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Originally Posted by Reiver (Post 9770969)
Ok...but one gets over it...that is life....stress trauma normally subsides.

Just as much as you can have two folks experience the same thing, and one is affected and one is not, you can have folks that get PTSD, and in one it fades away and the other it doesn't. Not everyone's mind works the same.

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Originally Posted by AZ_porschekid (Post 9771603)
I feel the whole system from top to bottom is corrupt.
If you guys have never had ptsd, and are quick to condemn it don't fully understand the psychological side. Or let alone the current state of the armed forces. And the fact that those who serve are bottom of the barrel of society...
Ptsd sucks ****ing hardcore, and you don't need combat to get it. One of my good buddies witnessed a fellow sm blow his own head off. Ptsd diagnosed. Va benefit 0%. Was medically discharged for it instead of meb. Lives a semi normal life. Works the family business. Prolly couldn't do a normal job to be completely honest.


But as said it's someone's trigger. You guys are crass to judge someone's wounds on not being able to see them. And on that note. What pisses me off is the large number of motorcycle accidents that are in the mil that are being covered and getting rated on, and getting those precious pensions. Grinds my gears

What also grinds my gears is the rating system. You get 10% DoD and then can get 100% through the va. The va should match the DoD rating and not pay out on stupid non disqualifying conditions.

As AZPK and R both said, there's a lot of corruption going on. Where people are involved, there will always be corruption.

The problem is that we can never know what will affect someone and what won't because the same things don't affect everyone the same. Some folks may be knee deep in battle and be "fine" and other folks could be affected by something that seems more minor, but that doesn't make it any less impactful to the person that is affected.

David 10-11-2017 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 9771535)

Extremely good read, thanks!

Arizona_928 10-11-2017 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Reiver (Post 9772024)
AZ porschekid

explain this to me please....

"And the fact that those who serve are bottom of the barrel of society..."

Enlisted that is. Gone are the days of smarts over pt scores. Then the fact of senior level positions by fat nco that are on profile. In my opinion the mil is stagnet, and will remain stagnet.

Wetwork 10-11-2017 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ_porschekid (Post 9772735)
Enlisted that is. Gone are the days of smarts over pt scores. Then the fact of senior level positions by fat nco that are on profile. In my opinion the mil is stagnet, and will remain stagnet.

When was it non-stagnant in our history? Sparta?

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for. authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place. of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their. households.-Socrates


No doubt that quite a few centurions were quoting Socrates, saying the same thing.

We've pretty much been in a ground war since 1990. We should just be thankful kids are still raising a hand and saying the oath. There are 22,658,000 vets. That's it. Just a measly 7% of the nation. No other job can you be shot outright for cowardice. Every single other job in the US you can simply just....... walk away. That should mean something. I hate the valor liars and the malingerer's just as much as anyone who has served with dignity. Most of the above links to medical fraud sites are in regards to the civilian sector. Are we defending the VA here, right now? For every success I'd bet there's a horror story or two that nixes it.- WW


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