Originally Posted by asphaltgambler (Post 9787579)

I love technology - like most men of a certain age, witnessed an incredible series of events, starting with putting a man on the moon where the computing power was less than what today's hand held calculator has.

The downside in my experience, is the interface to humans.

Originally Posted by JD159 (Post 9787288)

AI this AI that, but the best we can really do is "what is the weather". Nothing about artificial intelligence is actually intelligent yet.

Originally Posted by cstreit (Post 9788038)

I think we're darned close. The Gen 1 Google self-driving car used 3-5 million lines of code to navigate.

The Gen2 car applied machine learning algorithms and used about 2000 lines of code to do the same thing better.

Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 9786757)

I've had people mock by flip phone until I tell them that my total bill (tax, tag, dealer prep...) is less than $35 per month and I have unlimited minutes whenever I need them.
What about going online? Forbidden in my secured office and we have desktops in the break room. Don't travel enough to make it worth it and I despise having to dodge people who are all over the road because they are staring at a computer screen instead of looking where they are going.
Want to send me a text? Just call and leave me a voicemail message. Too much work for you? Then it probably isn't worth my time to read about it. Too much detail? E-mail me.

Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 9786757)

I've had people mock by flip phone until I tell them that my total bill (tax, tag, dealer prep...) is less than $35 per month and I have unlimited minutes whenever I need them.

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9788174)

A couple years ago everyone was convinced that toyota gas pedals were sticking and killing people left and right (almost everyone was convinced), Now we are going to put all our faith (and fate) into a computer to drive us around? Tanks but no tanks.

Originally Posted by cstreit (Post 9789704)

...and you trust the soccer mom applying makeup while cramming french fries down her screaming demon spawns throats while driving through traffic more? ..or the 16 year old texting her BFF while driving down the highway?

Do you ride commercial aircraft? (I think you know where I'm going).

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9789738)

i fly only when i have to and don't have much faith in it.

I trust ........................ me.

I can avoid idiots in other cars, been doing it for over 50 years.
I'm way too much of a control freak to get in a car that aint got no driver.


But, I wouldn't have a problem gettin my mom into one of those automobius cars, she's still driving and shouldn't be.
Macular degeneration or some such.

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9787575)

We can now drive a vehicle 100,000 miles with only adding gas and changing oil and air filters.

spark plugs that last forever, sealed transmissions, coolant systems that rarely need topping off, brakes that last nearly forever.

I remember always having a matchbook in the glove compartment because it was close to the .016" thickness required to gap the points.
I remember changing spark plugs every other year.
i remember oil going black after 1500 miles.
I remember having to adjust brakes to keep them from pulling to one side.
I remember having to check the tire pressure once a week because the paint on the steel rims was chipped and didn't seal perfectly.
I remember adding water to the radiator every month because it didn't have a plastic catch can.

No, the grass was definitely NOT greener back then.

Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 9787585)

Some of you have already theorized that updates are NSA inspired. Naw, they don't need that. They can already listen, watch, monitor everything you do anyway.
Every credit/debit card transaction is recorded by the banks: what you bought and where you are at (are you buying ammo, beer, and a pregnancy test?). Every smart phone call dialed is logged (who you called and your triangulated location and most believe that the call is route through a black box location that records everything). Your phone's GPS tells Big Brother where you are located 24/7/365. Your car's OBDII is logging how you drive so if you put in one of those nifty little plugins to get a better rate on car insurance they can track your driving habits and location 24/7/365. Car rentals all have GPS trackers. I suspect that our fancy radar detectors that give GPS related warnings can report your location. We won't even get started on what the NSA can glean from your internet activity.
Staying off the grid is virtually impossible unless you use a burner phone, no landline, no internet, no credit/debit cards, and drive an old car.

Basically 1984 is here. Big Brother is watching and listening. The only difference is that the info isn't interfering with your freedom of choice yet.

Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 9789678)

I've talked to people that have some of these lower priced smart phone plans. I don't need bad service, poor reception, spotty coverage, and throttling. As I've already stated I have no use for internet access 99.9 % of the time.
Choosing what works for me is not willful ignorance. I don't give a rip what is trendy or what others need. I do what works for me.

Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 9789678)

I've talked to people that have some of these lower priced smart phone plans. I don't need bad service, poor reception, spotty coverage, and throttling. As I've already stated I have no use for internet access 99.9 % of the time.
Choosing what works for me is not willful ignorance. I don't give a rip what is trendy or what others need. I do what works for me.

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 9787575)

We can now drive a vehicle 100,000 miles with only adding gas and changing oil and air filters.

spark plugs that last forever, sealed transmissions, coolant systems that rarely need topping off, brakes that last nearly forever.

I remember always having a matchbook in the glove compartment because it was close to the .016" thickness required to gap the points.
I remember changing spark plugs every other year.
i remember oil going black after 1500 miles.
I remember having to adjust brakes to keep them from pulling to one side.
I remember having to check the tire pressure once a week because the paint on the steel rims was chipped and didn't seal perfectly.
I remember adding water to the radiator every month because it didn't have a plastic catch can.

No, the grass was definitely NOT greener back then.