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workstation died, movign to mac

So my trusty Linux workstation of 12 years has died. Off inventory from the college, so any parts would come from my pocket... CPU fans died.

Have recovered my data. Have assimilated a 27" iMac - much faster/better machine.

But boy is it making me mad - unix-y enough that stuff I'm used to sometimes works.... Apple enough that stuff I'm used to has been disabled/prevented/blocked

Slowing getting it to where I want.... but I keep resisting the urge to reach for my Linux install disk..

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why not build a hackintosh so you can run W +osX +Linux on one box to do whatever you want

btw that apple imac will NOT LAST 12 years it is full of junk china made parts that fail
and only apple makes replacements at 5 to 10 times normal PC prices for more china junk parts
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I'm waiting for the same thing. My current PC is 6 years old, and it's still going strong with now evidence of letting up. That's good and bad. WHen this goes, I want to get a 27" iMac with some upgrades which won't be cheap, and I'm not ready to spend the money for that just yet.
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why not build a hackintosh so you can run W +osX +Linux on one box to do whatever you want

btw that apple imac will NOT LAST 12 years it is full of junk china made parts that fail
and only apple makes replacements at 5 to 10 times normal PC prices for more china junk parts
Isn't almost everything (computerized) these days full of parts made in China?
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If you're switching to a Mac because you're put off by the cost of PC replacement parts, you're gonna have a bad time...

Too bad you're not local; I have some excess high-end HP workstations just collecting dust at home.
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why not build a hackintosh so you can run W +osX +Linux on one box to do whatever you want

btw that apple imac will NOT LAST 12 years it is full of junk china made parts that fail
and only apple makes replacements at 5 to 10 times normal PC prices for more china junk parts
My 2008 iMac lasted 9 years. Most of its life, it was in a shop that had lots of quick-dry/concrete dust kicked up everywhere. It eventually got too hot and the mobo went.

Most PC manufacturers do the same thing with questionable parts. If you want quality, build your own computer. Making a hackintosh usually requires downloading questionable software to get it to work on your computer. Sometimes the origin of the software is sketchy and you end up with malware. Plus, youre breaking copyright law by doing it.
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As an aside: I'm now a devops engineer for a major retailer, and all of the ecom development machines are Mac, which is a huge culture shock for me. The claim is OSX is "better to develop on" but the actual machines that run the s/w w're developing is RedHat/CentOS. I think the real reason is that someone higher up had a Steve Jobs man crush and/or a stake in AAPL.
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why not build a hackintosh so you can run W +osX +Linux on one box to do whatever you want

btw that apple imac will NOT LAST 12 years it is full of junk china made parts that fail
and only apple makes replacements at 5 to 10 times normal PC prices for more china junk parts
lol

I still have fully functional 20 year old macs.

Like anyone else they'll occasionally have a specific line that has teething problems / known problems.
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But boy is it making me mad - unix-y enough that stuff I'm used to sometimes works.... Apple enough that stuff I'm used to has been disabled/prevented/blocked
Just enable root user.

Like Ubuntu, it's disabled by default.

Easy to enable and the thought process is, anyone who knows why and how to do it is probably qualified to have it enabled.

It's to spare the casual consumer from firing up terminal and doing something stupid.

FWIW, I use iTerm, much better than the built in terminal.

Lately I've been using Brackets for my text editor.
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As an aside: I'm now a devops engineer for a major retailer, and all of the ecom development machines are Mac, which is a huge culture shock for me. The claim is OSX is "better to develop on" but the actual machines that run the s/w w're developing is RedHat/CentOS. I think the real reason is that someone higher up had a Steve Jobs man crush and/or a stake in AAPL.
OSX comes with _AMP stack built in.

It's a more consistent environment, less variables to worry about.

Back in the day we used to build Mac Versions of game code first even though we were not going to publish it because it made initial QA much simpler / cheaper.

I develop everything on a Mac, all my servers are Cent.

Very common.
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If you're switching to a Mac because you're put off by the cost of PC replacement parts, you're gonna have a bad time...

Too bad you're not local; I have some excess high-end HP workstations just collecting dust at home.
Nope. But I'm not gonna spend $ on college owned equipment. If I move to Windows, ITS won't let me install the tools that I prefer to use to do all of my jobs, and this Mac was never being used and just sat collecting dust.

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Just enable root user.

Like Ubuntu, it's disabled by default.

Easy to enable and the thought process is, anyone who knows why and how to do it is probably qualified to have it enabled.

It's to spare the casual consumer from firing up terminal and doing something stupid.

FWIW, I use iTerm, much better than the built in terminal.

Lately I've been using Brackets for my text editor.
Already can run stuff via sudo, so that isn't the issue. All of the apps I use are fully cross platform, but OS X isn't exactly consistent about where it keeps my settings info. For example, Firefox profile is under ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles but on Linux it is in ~/.mozilla/profiles. Thunderbird - an application from the same company - stores in ~/.config/Thunderbird on OS X and in ~/.thunderbird on Linux

Growing pains/changing pains.
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Just run virtual box and install Kali Linux on it - hack away
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My iMac is 2007...won't die. Been thinking about installing a new hard drive though.
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My iMac is 2007...won't die. Been thinking about installing a new hard drive though.
Don't unless the HD dies. Hang an external one if you need the space.

The one thing those boxes, when you pull the display there are cables with not a lot of slack and if you are not careful you'll bork something.

Most of the dead ones I see is because someone tried to swap in a drive.

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