service dog, what kind?

[look 171]

I know nothing about dogs except they always seem to bite me

Almost all service dogs (usually for the blind) I have seen are Golden Retriever or similar looking dogs and are always calm. Today, after visiting the Santa Barbara Mission (damn school project) the kids decided to stop at Habit Burger for mid day snack. This woman comes into the burger joint with this big Pit Bull looking type dog that was pulling her all over the place. It had a body harness on it. Manager ask if that's a service dog. She replies,"Yes". I don't think the manager seen the dog or the type of dog this was as it pulled the woman into a corner away from the counter. It took about 2-3 minutes to fight this dog to calm it down enough so she can order. As soon as she order, dog dragged her outside. This woman seem normal without any real need for the dog to help her function. The owner was a bit raunchy looking, Wall Mart shopper type. I know, I should judge, but that's the best way to describe her. She ate inside along with the dog. All this time, the dog wouldn't sit still and was fighting, yanking on its leash.

[stomachmonkey]

Most likely not a service dog.

Although not all service dogs are used for things like vision impairment.

Some service medical conditions, seizures, things that may not require the same level of strict discipline like seeing eye dogs.

[Bill Douglas]

No a service dog. Not unless the woman works for the mob.

[look 171]

Restaurants or in this case, burger joints need to be tough on allowing animals into their establishments. I don't want to eat with that damn thing all over the place yanking on this woman.

[ILXLR8]

Fake service dogs really chap my hide.

[M.D. Holloway]

My wife has had a service dog (blind guide dog) for over 3 years now - there is absolutely no way that her dog would ever bite. It is 15/16s yellow lab and 1/16 golden retriever. Both her parents were guide dogs for the blind as were several in her litter. They put them through an extensive screening process for behavior and train-ability. They also do a genetic screening - seems as though these dogs that do the job well have a certain genetic profile. That is guide dogs for the blind. Too many other people have jumped on the service pet wagon and while I am sure there are some really good programs and animals, there are always those who claim its a service dog when it isn't - kinda like people who say they were in combat or the military and really were not. I don't like those people.

[GWN7]

It appears in California service dogs are required to be registered. If the owner can't produce the dogs licence then: "Any person who knowingly and fraudulently represents himself or herself, through verbal or written notice, to be the owner or trainer of any canine licensed/qualified/identified as a guide, signal, or service dog shall be guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding 6 months, by a fine not exceeding $1,000, or by both fine and imprisonment."

Would be a expensive lunch.

https://usaservicedogregistration.com/statelaws/california-service-dog-laws/

[look 171]

Originally Posted by GWN7

It appears in California service dogs are required to be registered. If the owner can't produce the dogs licence then: "Any person who knowingly and fraudulently represents himself or herself, through verbal or written notice, to be the owner or trainer of any canine licensed/qualified/identified as a guide, signal, or service dog shall be guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding 6 months, by a fine not exceeding $1,000, or by both fine and imprisonment."

Would be a expensive lunch.

https://usaservicedogregistration.com/statelaws/california-service-dog-laws/

That's never going to happen. I think people have just gone too fat where they take their pets. They treat them as if they are human sleep and dine with them, and that's fine but the general public should have to subject to that

[vash]

maybe her disability is “slow walking” and her dogs job is to hurry her up? Be sensitive.

[RKDinOKC]

In the process of training my Golden Retriever to be more than a "Service Dog". Plans to train her to be a Diabetic Alert dog. In order to just enroll her in classes for diabetic alert dog training she has to pass a extensive service dog exam for behavior and control. If at any point she misbehaves they will kick her out, no refund. And it ain't cheap.

No way that dog was any kind of service dog. If it was in training it should have had a "Service Dog In Training" vest on to warn people.

It is terrible. When I mention I am training my dog people ask me why I don't just get on the internet and buy a vest and credentials. Tell them I want her to be a real service dog, not a fake service dog.

My first Golden Retriever was just a pet, but was as well behaved as ANY service dog. Took her with me everywhere. Never took her into stores, there was no need to. Could just have her sit outside and she would stay an never move unless I told her it was okay. I have stayed in hotels that were NO PETS ALLOWED. Asked if a really well behaved dog was, then showed the manager she would use the restroom on command when and where I told her to. That was good enough for them.

When I had her I took her with my to fly R/C planes. She was always quite and right at my side. She would give anyone her attention unless I told her it was okay. Guys even tried to feed her treats and she wouldn't take them unless I said it was okay. The guys really liked her after they found I could send her to fetch beers from their ice chests. Other people would bring their dogs and let them loose. The guys would scold and holler because their dogs didn't behave. The people would point at my dog and they guys would say, Can't you see the leash on that dog. There wasn't one.

One guy had a pretty well behaved dog he brought to the flying field. A couple of coyote pups were playing on the other side of the runway in a pasture. He let his dog, a miniature pincher go play with the coyote pups. They played for about 20 minutes. Then the momma coyote loped up. Grabbed the pincher by the neck and snapped it. Then they all trotted off with supper.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by vash

maybe her disability is “slow walking” and her dogs job is to hurry her up? Be sensitive.

Now, you have me laughing. That's funny

[wdfifteen]

How does a diabetic alert dog signal that there is a problem? Is it possible this dog was sensing something wrong and the woman was ignoring it? Just asking.

[RKDinOKC]

I've only seen one alert dog and it had a service dog vest with saddle bags to carry both insulin, and snacks.

Theoretically since you are involved in training an alert dog, you can train it to signal in lots of different wasy, from putting it's paws on you, to bringing a specific toy, getting testing supplies, even getting another person. Don't think dragging you around, getting excited and wiggly would be a very good alert signal. It sounds more like my dog acted when not leach trained very well yet (and I won't take her many places yet because of it). She just loves people and gets excited around them and wants to greet every one of them. When I got thru a drive thru, I can roll the back window of my car down, she will stick her head out and say "Hello" The attendant usual gives her something because she turns on the cute happy puppy thing AND it sounds like hello.