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GT3-1386 01-15-2018 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 9883630)
Some time they go by me so fat that I don't have time to see if they are conversions or not? I don't think the long hood is better looking then a typical 930. Maybe they were before my time. I agree with Leakyseal and felt the same way, we are about the same age. I remember seeing a slant nose back then and thought that was "THE" car. Hell, the DP 930 Slantnose Cab was the most in your face car of the 80s and I would give my left nut just to seat in one back then. Today, I think they are ugly as hell. I have to say this, I still don't think the long hood cars are that great looking and I am building one. No, its no back date.

Hope this one doesn't look too ugly to you, it looks so great to me. Claimed to be modified by Kremer using mostly l Kremer and 935 parts ...showing at dp935 registry before in white color ... After market Martini Livery though.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9e74060bc9.jpg

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Rodsrsr 01-15-2018 09:59 AM

I saw a slant the other day at Harbor Freight parking lot and I must say it looked pretty damn cool. They look much better in person.

LEAKYSEALS951 01-15-2018 10:17 AM

I've always prefered the Kremer over the factory slantnoses. Something about the way it is more rounded. I think the livery helps it out.

sammyg2 01-15-2018 10:17 AM

I personally would not spend money to back-date a 911 and wouldn't consider purchasing a 911 that was back-dated.

But .....Opinions vary. It's their car and their money. They can do whatever they want with it. (except sell it to me ;) )

Iciclehead 01-15-2018 11:22 AM

I am in the middle of a backdate on an '89 chassis, the reasoning for me was that the earlier cars were lighter (those bumpers are heavy) and the car has a more elegant, delicate look. I have had a later car, Porsche did a great job of adapting the 911 to the 5 mph bumper standard, but it still made the car look fat.

As for what anyone thinks about it, well, shall we say I really do not care....

Dennis

look 171 01-15-2018 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GT3-1386 (Post 9886601)
Hope this one doesn't look too ugly to you, it looks so great to me. Claimed to be modified by Kremer using mostly l Kremer and 935 parts ...showing at dp935 registry before in white color ... After market Martini Livery though.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9e74060bc9.jpg

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Hey man, your advance photography skill makes that look kile a Tamiya model. BTW, I like that 935 look, for a race car, and even on a street car, just not the cab.

look 171 01-15-2018 02:08 PM

This is what I am playing (paying) with now. Not a back date.

My other pain in the ass project. That RUF bumper is coming off. Anyone want to buy it? I think its front and rear.

look 171 01-15-2018 02:12 PM

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BTW, that's not my cabinet shop.

Craig T 01-15-2018 03:09 PM

Here's my backdate hotrod. I did it two years ago. All my fiends told me I was nuts, that I would lose my A$$ on a backdate Frankenstein. One year from starting the project it was in Excellence Magazine, Total 911, and Esses. I sold it to a SpaceX executive for six figures. I used the profit to buy my 997 Turbo. That backdate was the best thing I ever did. I don't really miss it. The 997TT is much more functional.



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KFC911 01-15-2018 03:25 PM

I've always drooled every time you post pics of that car Craig...

....as I wipe my chin and keyboard :)

Craig T 01-15-2018 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 9887043)
I've always drooled every time you post pics of that car Craig...

....as I wipe my chin and keyboard :)

Thanks KC.

The R-Gruppe guys turned their nose up at me. The 911 Registry guys turned their nose up at my backdate as well. All the "purists" discounted it. Funny, it was lighter, faster, and handled better than any of the original 911s or RGroupe cars. I thank Magnus every day that I drive my free 997TT. He's the one who created the market outside of the purists. ...a market of enthusiasts more interested in a fun and pure Driving Experience then whether a car has the correct license plate bolts or is the original color.

GT3-1386 01-15-2018 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 9886951)
Hey man, your advance photography skill makes that look kile a Tamiya model. BTW, I like that 935 look, for a race car, and even on a street car, just not the cab.

Haha it was taken by professional in a PCA car meet event. I was lucky to pick this up almost 5 years ago. It is a 86 930 turbo converted to 935k2 street . Around 550HP on 3.3 engine.

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Rodsrsr 01-15-2018 04:05 PM

Pretty sure people were laughing at this guy too. 82 SC backdate $227k.
@ CraigT, I totally get the 997 thing... Recently picked up a 997.2 Carrera S and its a helluv a car.


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greglepore 01-15-2018 04:55 PM

Ahh, for the days when these were just cars and people didn't build longhoods out of sc's just to flip them.
No disrespect to anyone here, but the parade on BAT has become a bit much.
That rusted out e28 M5 might get a bid from me yet.

Craig T 01-15-2018 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by greglepore (Post 9887176)
Ahh, for the days when these were just cars and people didn't build longhoods out of sc's just to flip them.
No disrespect to anyone here, but the parade on BAT has become a bit much.
That rusted out e28 M5 might get a bid from me yet.

Lol! What? Too lazy or too poor? Love the left handed insult.

da Vinci Dan 01-15-2018 05:31 PM

My opinion is that backdating is a fad that has passed. Some people are just hanging on too long. To each their own.

Jim Richards 01-15-2018 07:02 PM

I still like the back dates to longhood-look. IMO, the early cars are still the best looking 911s, and if you can lighten an impact bumper car in the process of doing the backdate, it’s all good!

wdfifteen 01-15-2018 09:59 PM

I like the longnose look. It looks more integrated. I have a baby bumper car ('88) and I like the way it looks too, but it looks like what it is, a clunky modification of an integrated design. Once the various tails started appearing, Butzi's beautiful design became something else. Interesting in its own right, but not the tight, all of a piece design of the original 911. The slantnose was a further departure. Its shape worked as a race car because race cars are often compromises of design. But as a street car or a cab, no, never liked it.

look 171 01-15-2018 10:34 PM

You know Greg, that damn green car of your has my heart beating a little faster every time I see those pics you posted. Now that I have had chance at it, it will be done soon.

wdfifteen 01-15-2018 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 9887455)
You know Greg, that damn green car of your has my heart beating a little faster every time I see those pics you posted. Now that I have had chance at it, it will be done soon.

Agreed. That is one sweet-ass car.


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